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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 7431541" data-attributes="member: 82106">I don't follow your final point there. It wouldn't seem like 4e (I only know the two OSR games by repute) should have this limitation. It would be easy to see how the remnants of &quot;The Empire of Nerath&quot; could be ruled by, say, the Red Dragon Infernus (a survivor of Arkhosia who reverted to his evil chaotic nature). The ancient wyrm crawls out of the darkness, carbonizing gnolls to the left and right, and then taking up residence in what was once the provincial Temple of Erathis! Oops, we have a new overlord. Nobody really wants to mess with that. One village defies him, and he simply withdraws his protection from it... bye bye.This one would certainly put the PCs in a tricky situation. They could of course simply be brutal lieutenants, but even THEN its easy to imagine putting them in a difficult spot pretty easily. If they have an ounce of integrity, or serious ambitions of their own, then things are going to get sticky before too long. And of course, its likely to be an unstable arrangement over time. Pretty much all brutal absolutist states are pretty unstable, but it could still last for human generations.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 7431541, member: 82106"] I don't follow your final point there. It wouldn't seem like 4e (I only know the two OSR games by repute) should have this limitation. It would be easy to see how the remnants of "The Empire of Nerath" could be ruled by, say, the Red Dragon Infernus (a survivor of Arkhosia who reverted to his evil chaotic nature). The ancient wyrm crawls out of the darkness, carbonizing gnolls to the left and right, and then taking up residence in what was once the provincial Temple of Erathis! Oops, we have a new overlord. Nobody really wants to mess with that. One village defies him, and he simply withdraws his protection from it... bye bye. This one would certainly put the PCs in a tricky situation. They could of course simply be brutal lieutenants, but even THEN its easy to imagine putting them in a difficult spot pretty easily. If they have an ounce of integrity, or serious ambitions of their own, then things are going to get sticky before too long. And of course, its likely to be an unstable arrangement over time. Pretty much all brutal absolutist states are pretty unstable, but it could still last for human generations. [/QUOTE]

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