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<blockquote data-quote="Aenghus" data-source="post: 7433433" data-attributes="member: 2656">Particularly in my D&amp;D I prefer fairly conventional action adventure where the PCs are sufficiently &quot;good&quot; to be the good guy protagonists. I see it as a problem in functional world-building to design a world where this seems reasonable and isn't irritating, at least for those players willing to go half-way on the issue. As a referee or player I try to be very clear that I like white hats to be viable and if they aren't I want to know in advance so I can consider walking away.In the action adventure genre as I understand it, the problems of the PCs can be solved by action-focused plans, the planning may be anywhere from non-existent to complex, and where there might be temporary setbacks or even ultimate defeat, the players get an understanding that they aren't wasting their time, they get to have a positive effect on the setting with no mean-minded clawbacks. Heroism is possible and not futile or counterproductive.YMMV. I understand there are loads of people who prefer greyer, dark or gritty games or who might appreciate no win scenarios, or complex problems with no PC-available solution and more power to them. I, for one, don't, most of the time.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Aenghus, post: 7433433, member: 2656"] Particularly in my D&D I prefer fairly conventional action adventure where the PCs are sufficiently "good" to be the good guy protagonists. I see it as a problem in functional world-building to design a world where this seems reasonable and isn't irritating, at least for those players willing to go half-way on the issue. As a referee or player I try to be very clear that I like white hats to be viable and if they aren't I want to know in advance so I can consider walking away. In the action adventure genre as I understand it, the problems of the PCs can be solved by action-focused plans, the planning may be anywhere from non-existent to complex, and where there might be temporary setbacks or even ultimate defeat, the players get an understanding that they aren't wasting their time, they get to have a positive effect on the setting with no mean-minded clawbacks. Heroism is possible and not futile or counterproductive. YMMV. I understand there are loads of people who prefer greyer, dark or gritty games or who might appreciate no win scenarios, or complex problems with no PC-available solution and more power to them. I, for one, don't, most of the time. [/QUOTE]

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