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what is wrong with a shielding rapier???
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<blockquote data-quote="Caliban" data-source="post: 239198" data-attributes="member: 284"><p>The guidelines in the DMG are just that: Guidelines. They are good for determining the base price of a custom weapon, but many of the items in the DMG cost far more that the guidelines would suggest. (Ring of Freedom of Movement, Ring of Invisibility, Ring of Regeneration, the weapon special ability of Speed, any item that grants permanent flight, etc.)</p><p></p><p>I believe this is because the pricing guidelines in the DMG don't take into account the effect of making a short duration spell permanent, or with with effectively unlimited charges. </p><p></p><p>This is what your auto-shield rapier is doing. Anytime a short duration, high bonus effect is made effectively permanent, then the price should go through the roof.</p><p></p><p>I would price it as a slotless item that grants +7 Deflection AC (because cover stacks with just about everything), and +3 limited bonus to Reflex saves, with a 30% discount because the AC is directional, and a further 30% discount because it only applies when the weapon is drawn. </p><p></p><p>+7 AC = (7 x 7 x 2,000 gp x 2 [slotless]) = 196000 gp</p><p></p><p>+3 Reflex Saves = (3 x 3 x 250 gp x 2 [slotless]) = 4500 gp</p><p></p><p>196000 x . 7 x .7 = 96, 040 gp</p><p></p><p>96, 040 gp + 4,500 gp = 100,540 gp</p><p></p><p>Total Price = + 100, 540 gp (And that's without factoring in the magic missile immunity it also grants.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Caliban, post: 239198, member: 284"] The guidelines in the DMG are just that: Guidelines. They are good for determining the base price of a custom weapon, but many of the items in the DMG cost far more that the guidelines would suggest. (Ring of Freedom of Movement, Ring of Invisibility, Ring of Regeneration, the weapon special ability of Speed, any item that grants permanent flight, etc.) I believe this is because the pricing guidelines in the DMG don't take into account the effect of making a short duration spell permanent, or with with effectively unlimited charges. This is what your auto-shield rapier is doing. Anytime a short duration, high bonus effect is made effectively permanent, then the price should go through the roof. I would price it as a slotless item that grants +7 Deflection AC (because cover stacks with just about everything), and +3 limited bonus to Reflex saves, with a 30% discount because the AC is directional, and a further 30% discount because it only applies when the weapon is drawn. +7 AC = (7 x 7 x 2,000 gp x 2 [slotless]) = 196000 gp +3 Reflex Saves = (3 x 3 x 250 gp x 2 [slotless]) = 4500 gp 196000 x . 7 x .7 = 96, 040 gp 96, 040 gp + 4,500 gp = 100,540 gp Total Price = + 100, 540 gp (And that's without factoring in the magic missile immunity it also grants.) [/QUOTE]
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