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<blockquote data-quote="Particle_Man" data-source="post: 3257738" data-attributes="member: 892">I don't buy this as the rationale, since in 1st ed., some class/race combinations were specifically given as NPC only.&nbsp; If there had been a line in the phb that said &quot;NPC elf magic-users can be 25th level, but PC elf magic-users only get to be 11th&quot; then your argument would be more convincing.&nbsp; Since there is no such line, and since the PHB does contain specific NPC vs. PC differences, it is hard to see why it should be assumed to be so.The practical effect in the campaign I was in of class/race/level limitations was that certain characters were not played at high level.&nbsp; The party became a party of humans and thieves.&nbsp; Demi-humans that were not thieves simply retired their characters.That said, I see no problem with class/race limitations if a particular setting demands it.&nbsp; Class/race/level limitations, I now have more problem with, now that I am no longer accept what is in the rulebook as gospel.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Particle_Man, post: 3257738, member: 892"] I don't buy this as the rationale, since in 1st ed., some class/race combinations were specifically given as NPC only. If there had been a line in the phb that said "NPC elf magic-users can be 25th level, but PC elf magic-users only get to be 11th" then your argument would be more convincing. Since there is no such line, and since the PHB does contain specific NPC vs. PC differences, it is hard to see why it should be assumed to be so. The practical effect in the campaign I was in of class/race/level limitations was that certain characters were not played at high level. The party became a party of humans and thieves. Demi-humans that were not thieves simply retired their characters. That said, I see no problem with class/race limitations if a particular setting demands it. Class/race/level limitations, I now have more problem with, now that I am no longer accept what is in the rulebook as gospel. [/QUOTE]

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