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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kaleon Moonshae" data-source="post: 1634001" data-attributes="member: 12147">Just had this debate today on the floor. I agree that a lot of soldiers would be lawful neutral, but I still hold that many if not most are lawful evil. Lawful-neutral means true law, you follow the law explicitly, that menas you do not sneak a smoke on duty, you don't pay someone else to shine your shoes one time, you don't have someone cover for you, you do not let that one guy off the hook for being out after curfiew cause he was nice to you. You follow the law, period, no exceptions. Lawful evil means you do not ask the moral questions (which during war will get you killed) but you don't nec follow every single minor law on the book either. Look at nam, my uncle, who is a very good man, even had a smoke of pot now and then (which was officially against the military law) so he can't be considered lawful-neutral but he also didn't ask twice when told to kill. I am not saying solders in peacetime are lawful evil (my uncle isn't), only talking bout wartime and most of the military accounts I have read support this idea to me personally if you are going by strict dnd standards (which is what was required at the start). Look at the way boot camp trains you to be even, they teach you to be ruthless, which dnd would suggest is an evil act.Now, as for the other question, I also stated that I would kill to protect my family or loved ones, so I see the two comments as seperate. Would I have *moral* qualms about capping the jerk next door if he annoyed me? No I can honestly say I would not have any *moral* qualms with that. What I do believe in, however, is that we need to have rules to live by and that if I do something that warrants punishment I believe that I should take that punishment. I do not cap that jerk because I know that if I do I will go to jail and he isn't worth going to jail over. If I thought he was, however, I would have no problem capping him and doing my time. I am sorry if you feel that that is f*ed up but it is reality and I think more people feel that way than you may be willing to admit. I have stated numerous times on many posts, I do not believe in good and evil, period (as you can guess I am not christian or a member of any other standard western religion). I do believe there are things that are better or worse for me, society, my friends, the world, but that doesn't make one thing is good and another evil. I think there is a balance to strive for in the world, and so I do believe if I do something to upset that balance I need to pay somehow. Much like the nordic peoples of a long time ago as a western example. You could kill anyone you wanted to, but you understood that that person's family had the right to come kill you as well so you did not go around killing people for minor arguments. This was not a moral matter but a legal one.</blockquote>

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