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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kaleon Moonshae" data-source="post: 1634103" data-attributes="member: 12147">Well, we are using the 3.5 dnd version of good and evil, which is very narrow. Also, I would argue that in western civilization, good is very narrow and evil is very broad. And most of those comments were geared towards defining myself in dnd terms, which I stated was hard to me but I tried to do it as best I could as I read them in the book.And to me, when talking about a word, you use the common definiton, hince, yes, my understanding of good and evil are very narrow, because in essence they are very narrow concepts. I suggest that the way most definitions of evil go that killing is, in itself, an evil act, one's jusitifcation of it, however, can mediate it. The commandment reads thou shall not kill (yes, this is bibilical, because lets' face it, western culture is based on christianity), not 'thou shall only kill if...' So I would say the book definitions of good and evil are pretty narrow. Now, if you wish to go and begin a conversation on non jci beliefs that is a whole different matter. Most other cultures, even in the west, did not see things in the *good/evil* dichotomy that jci does.Hence why I said I was chaotic netural. I may believe in balance, but I am a creature ruled by my passions, always have been. I am an aries and pisces cusp, so I have over emotionalism on both sides. I believe that balance is what we should *strive* for instead of good or evil, but I do not consider myself there yet.Now, as to the victimless crime question. I believe in social order if we are going to have civilization and I obey social order to a great extent. Personally I think the *true* path would be one of natural selection and balance, however, that does not work with civilization. Since civilization gives me things that I enjoy I will support it. I have no moral problem with committing any crime, although there are many crimes I refuse to commit because they would be unfair and *worse* than my natural tendency to be is. No crime is victimless, but some are only superficially harmful. I break those laws that I do not agree with and which I feel do not do any overt damage to anyone or anything. I open doors for people, I say thank you, and everything you would expect from anyone, I just do not do any of those things out of a *moral* decision. Politeness, however, is a big thing to me. Being nice is as well. I am not a mean, nor hateful person, I just do not believe in the standard definition of morality, and since I believe words mean something, I choose not to try and change the definition to fit me into it.I know that's very rambling, but maybe it helps explain some stuff, i just got off work so am a little distracted.</blockquote>

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