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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 8500885" data-attributes="member: 6790260"><p>As others have mentioned, I'd say that's the function of the Astral Sea (at least in the World Axis cosmology, which I favor because it feels much more "mytho-natural.") That is, since I share much of [USER=58172]@Yaarel[/USER] 's views on the 4e cosmology, I see the Astral Sea as being the plane of <em>thought made manifest</em>, as opposed to the Elemental Chaos, which is <em>forces given form</em>. Deities are in some sense living concepts--connected to transcendental, reality-defining elements (hence why, even though the Elemental Chaos is a place "of chaos," you can still have <em>deities</em> of chaos: because "chaos" is still a concept.) And the deepest, furthest reaches of the Astral Sea can get <em>really weird</em>, as strange thoughts achieve some level of realism or physicality.</p><p></p><p>At those outermost edges, you get the Astral Sea's equivalent of the Abyss, where you strain against the boundaries of reality. The places where reality becomes close to the Far Realm, often represented by the eldritch stars and their strange powers.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Is it really? It always came across to me as a really thoroughly nailed-down, "it must be this way, and this is a comprehensive accounting of what there is."</p><p></p><p>That's part of why it always felt so non-mytho-natural to me. There's a place for everything and everything in its place. It feels like the Standard Model of particle physics, simultaneously ad-hoc and <em>intended</em> to be comprehensive, bringing the worst of both worlds: rigid enough to feel artificial and constraining, but messy enough to not actually trigger my "ah, symmetry" reflex. (The weird "halfway between XY and XZ" planes certainly don't help, at least for me.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 8500885, member: 6790260"] As others have mentioned, I'd say that's the function of the Astral Sea (at least in the World Axis cosmology, which I favor because it feels much more "mytho-natural.") That is, since I share much of [USER=58172]@Yaarel[/USER] 's views on the 4e cosmology, I see the Astral Sea as being the plane of [I]thought made manifest[/I], as opposed to the Elemental Chaos, which is [I]forces given form[/I]. Deities are in some sense living concepts--connected to transcendental, reality-defining elements (hence why, even though the Elemental Chaos is a place "of chaos," you can still have [I]deities[/I] of chaos: because "chaos" is still a concept.) And the deepest, furthest reaches of the Astral Sea can get [I]really weird[/I], as strange thoughts achieve some level of realism or physicality. At those outermost edges, you get the Astral Sea's equivalent of the Abyss, where you strain against the boundaries of reality. The places where reality becomes close to the Far Realm, often represented by the eldritch stars and their strange powers. Is it really? It always came across to me as a really thoroughly nailed-down, "it must be this way, and this is a comprehensive accounting of what there is." That's part of why it always felt so non-mytho-natural to me. There's a place for everything and everything in its place. It feels like the Standard Model of particle physics, simultaneously ad-hoc and [I]intended[/I] to be comprehensive, bringing the worst of both worlds: rigid enough to feel artificial and constraining, but messy enough to not actually trigger my "ah, symmetry" reflex. (The weird "halfway between XY and XZ" planes certainly don't help, at least for me.) [/QUOTE]
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