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Message: <blockquote data-quote="bouncyhead" data-source="post: 4897422" data-attributes="member: 19115">Hmmm. AD&D/2nd have v positive memories associated with them. I guess that's nostalgia. They probably stank as systems but hey.Our group has always moved on as the editions have been released (since 1977) without really thinking too hard about it, but appreciating the overall improvements to rules/mechanics.We moved to 4E and found that we didn't really care too much about the rules after all. It is the implied universe/'D&D feel' that's important to us and we didn't find it there.One can get obsessive about balance/mechanics/math etc. Especially regarding 3e. I understand, but do not encounter in real(?) life, the myriad imbalance issues that apparently surround 3. We just run our fighters, wizards and clerics, without envious glares across the table, laughing our a**es off when one of us gets totalled by something quick and arbitrary and every so often revelling in a piece of spell-use whimsy or improvisation. We're giving Pathfinder a try now, mostly because there's a shiny new book, but also because the new Yellow Mold totalled the Sorceror last week in three rounds flat and it made me laugh so hard beer came out my nose.</blockquote>