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<blockquote data-quote="Orius" data-source="post: 540546" data-attributes="member: 8863"><p>Here's how I break them down:</p><p></p><p>1: DS9</p><p>2: TOS/Enterprise (tied for second place)</p><p>4: TNG</p><p>5: Voyager</p><p></p><p></p><p>Deep Space Nine comes in first, because it has the best characters and best plots overall. Sure, the series started out slow, but there was real character development that seemed believeable. And of all the Trek series DS9 had the most in-depth exploaration of the Trek universe. The other series for the most part explores a planed or race in a single episode, or a small handful f episodes at most, and then never returns to them. That's a very broad, but shallow exploration. DS9 has a lot of broad exploration as well, but we also explore a number of cultures more deeply throught the run of the series: the Klingons, the Ferengi, the Cardassians, the Bajorans, and the major players in the Dominion. The Romulans and Trill get some exposeure too, but not as much. (The Romulans really seem to get shafted throughout Trek. They have some of the greatest potential as villains, yet it doesn't get tapped as it should.)</p><p></p><p>TOS is the original. It was at times, thought provoking, and challenged a lot of perceptions of the time. But in some ways, it seems dated. And for every good episode like "City on the Edge of Forever", you get crap like "Spock's Brain" or "The Way to Eden". Then there's classical Trek silliness that makes it hard to take seriously: red shirts, "I dinna know how much more she can take Captain!", "I'm a doctor, not a...". Still without TOS, none of the other would even exist.</p><p></p><p>Enterprise is still relativly new, so it's not as easy to judge. But it has a number of good points. It pays homage to TOS a lot more than the others did. There's good characters, and we see some good relationships turning up: Archer-T'Pol-Trip mirroring the classic Kirk-Spock-McCoy trio, yet with its own unique dimension (such as the sexual tention between Archer and T'Pol). You have Trip an Malcom's friendship, which is vaguely reminiscent of O'Brien and Bashir's friendship in DS9. T'Pol playing a sort of mentor role towards Hoshi. Having good relationships like this give the show something to build upon. There's Phlox, who's sort of and outsider, but with character quirks that make him interesting without being too weird. A few disappointments; the plots tend to be a bit cliched even for Trek, the Suliban storyline doesn't get a lot of airtime, and Travis seems very undeveloped in comparison to the rest of the crew.</p><p></p><p>TNG may have been the most popular and respectable of all the Trek series, and I give it credit for that. But it has a lot of boring episodes. Also, it seems to ignore the existance of TOS at times, and when it does reference it, it often doesn't do it well. The show in many places seems pompous and takes itself _way_ too seriously. Also, especially in the earier episodes, it's beginnig to show its age. Character development was erratic. Picard got to be likeable. Riker started off well, but degenerated into a buffoon. I never found Crusher and Troi's branching off into command responsibilities to be convincing. Data was alright, but his quest to become more human started wearing thin near the end. Worf, who was added to the cast as and afterthought by Roddenberry, evolves into a pivotal character.</p><p></p><p>Voyager "wins" last place easily. The concept itself was bad. I have a hard time imagining that the Maquis wouldn't eventually mutiny. Janeway was horribly portrayed. I believe that's because the producers seemed to think a strong female character = an independant female character. It didn't work. Janeway is not a team player, yet Starfleet captains need to be team players, and all the other captains are, though in different ways. She's got a huge ego, and makes very bad tactical decisions. I can only conclude that Starfleet doesn't have psychological evalutations for command personnel, because Janeway would likely have failed them (I would love to see how badly she botched things in the Kobayashi Maru, though <eg>). The Doctor ripped off to many of McCoy's mannerisms, and there were way too many episodes with him towards the end. The same with Seven of Nine. She wasn't a bad character, but she got overused. I hated Neelix's overly cheerful attitude. The other characters were boring and never got any development. How could they with Janeway's huge ego browbeating them and Seven and the Doctor hogging the spotlight?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Orius, post: 540546, member: 8863"] Here's how I break them down: 1: DS9 2: TOS/Enterprise (tied for second place) 4: TNG 5: Voyager Deep Space Nine comes in first, because it has the best characters and best plots overall. Sure, the series started out slow, but there was real character development that seemed believeable. And of all the Trek series DS9 had the most in-depth exploaration of the Trek universe. The other series for the most part explores a planed or race in a single episode, or a small handful f episodes at most, and then never returns to them. That's a very broad, but shallow exploration. DS9 has a lot of broad exploration as well, but we also explore a number of cultures more deeply throught the run of the series: the Klingons, the Ferengi, the Cardassians, the Bajorans, and the major players in the Dominion. The Romulans and Trill get some exposeure too, but not as much. (The Romulans really seem to get shafted throughout Trek. They have some of the greatest potential as villains, yet it doesn't get tapped as it should.) TOS is the original. It was at times, thought provoking, and challenged a lot of perceptions of the time. But in some ways, it seems dated. And for every good episode like "City on the Edge of Forever", you get crap like "Spock's Brain" or "The Way to Eden". Then there's classical Trek silliness that makes it hard to take seriously: red shirts, "I dinna know how much more she can take Captain!", "I'm a doctor, not a...". Still without TOS, none of the other would even exist. Enterprise is still relativly new, so it's not as easy to judge. But it has a number of good points. It pays homage to TOS a lot more than the others did. There's good characters, and we see some good relationships turning up: Archer-T'Pol-Trip mirroring the classic Kirk-Spock-McCoy trio, yet with its own unique dimension (such as the sexual tention between Archer and T'Pol). You have Trip an Malcom's friendship, which is vaguely reminiscent of O'Brien and Bashir's friendship in DS9. T'Pol playing a sort of mentor role towards Hoshi. Having good relationships like this give the show something to build upon. There's Phlox, who's sort of and outsider, but with character quirks that make him interesting without being too weird. A few disappointments; the plots tend to be a bit cliched even for Trek, the Suliban storyline doesn't get a lot of airtime, and Travis seems very undeveloped in comparison to the rest of the crew. TNG may have been the most popular and respectable of all the Trek series, and I give it credit for that. But it has a lot of boring episodes. Also, it seems to ignore the existance of TOS at times, and when it does reference it, it often doesn't do it well. The show in many places seems pompous and takes itself _way_ too seriously. Also, especially in the earier episodes, it's beginnig to show its age. Character development was erratic. Picard got to be likeable. Riker started off well, but degenerated into a buffoon. I never found Crusher and Troi's branching off into command responsibilities to be convincing. Data was alright, but his quest to become more human started wearing thin near the end. Worf, who was added to the cast as and afterthought by Roddenberry, evolves into a pivotal character. Voyager "wins" last place easily. The concept itself was bad. I have a hard time imagining that the Maquis wouldn't eventually mutiny. Janeway was horribly portrayed. I believe that's because the producers seemed to think a strong female character = an independant female character. It didn't work. Janeway is not a team player, yet Starfleet captains need to be team players, and all the other captains are, though in different ways. She's got a huge ego, and makes very bad tactical decisions. I can only conclude that Starfleet doesn't have psychological evalutations for command personnel, because Janeway would likely have failed them (I would love to see how badly she botched things in the Kobayashi Maru, though <eg>). The Doctor ripped off to many of McCoy's mannerisms, and there were way too many episodes with him towards the end. The same with Seven of Nine. She wasn't a bad character, but she got overused. I hated Neelix's overly cheerful attitude. The other characters were boring and never got any development. How could they with Janeway's huge ego browbeating them and Seven and the Doctor hogging the spotlight? [/QUOTE]
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