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<blockquote data-quote="Aus_Snow" data-source="post: 4887810" data-attributes="member: 29112">(Emphasis mine.)IIRC, Willpower is in fact a common 'stat' among all the separate oWoD games. IOW, never a defining trait in any of them.Instead, for example, you might find 'Humanity' (along with Conscience, Courage and Self-Control) in Vampire: the Masquerade, highlighting a/the central theme, right there. I can't remember what all the others were. Er, in fact, I've never known what they all were. But I'm pretty sure about the Vamp ones at least.So anyway, there could be more to that stuff, in the oWoD, than you might have realised, or given it credit for.edit --- As another example, from what I can tell (with a quick search!) Werewolf: the Apocalypse has Honour, Glory and Wisdom as its 'central thematic stats', or thereabouts. I might be completely wrong of course, but they look that way. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> Oh sure, there is Willpower (as always) and also Rage and Gnosis, which - I gather - fuel certain abilities, and act as pointers for particular behaviour. But the other three seem key, in the same way Humanity (et al) are in V:tM.That aside, I don't necessarily agree with Mr. Wick, about a lot of things. He seems rather presumptuous at times, even though he also happens to come up with some good stuff along the way. Ah, well.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Aus_Snow, post: 4887810, member: 29112"] (Emphasis mine.) IIRC, Willpower is in fact a common 'stat' among [U]all[/U] the separate oWoD games. IOW, never a [I]defining[/I] trait in any of them. Instead, for example, you might find 'Humanity' (along with Conscience, Courage and Self-Control) in Vampire: the Masquerade, highlighting a/the central theme, right there. I can't remember what all the others were. Er, in fact, I've never known what they all were. But I'm pretty sure about the Vamp ones at least. So anyway, there could be more to that stuff, in the oWoD, than you might have realised, or given it credit for. edit --- As another example, from what I can tell (with a quick search!) Werewolf: the Apocalypse has Honour, Glory and Wisdom as its 'central thematic stats', or thereabouts. I might be completely wrong of course, but they look that way. :) Oh sure, there [I]is[/I] Willpower (as always) and also Rage and Gnosis, which - I gather - fuel certain abilities, and act as pointers for particular behaviour. But the other three seem key, in the same way Humanity (et al) are in V:tM. That aside, I don't necessarily agree with Mr. Wick, about a lot of things. He seems rather presumptuous at times, even though he also happens to come up with some good stuff along the way. Ah, well. [/QUOTE]

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