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<blockquote data-quote="ScuroNotte" data-source="post: 8459184" data-attributes="member: 6792788"><p>A Ranger is a hunter. A ranger is supposed to be the person to turn to help guide through the wilderness and survive. Its embarrassing when the party asks the ranger to lead them and they say "Sorry, wrong terrain. Maybe next time." </p><p></p><p>Where are these skills? You can say the same for the Ranger. </p><p>Other than Land's Stride, there is not other skill the scout can't do and better. Unless the ranger is their in favored terrain, their skills are greatly diminished. The Scout gets these skills and have them applicable in any terrain. The Nature skills are given to them at 3rd level (with Survival) with expertise on top of it. Animal skills, maybe a background or a skill feat. </p><p></p><p>Let's compare;</p><p></p><table style='width: 100%'><tr><td>Favored Enemy/Foe/Hunter's Mark - 1 target/species</td><td>Sneak attack - any target, no concentration, unlimited uses</td></tr><tr><td>Natural Explorer - Favored terrain only</td><td>More skills, expertise, Reliable Talent, Given Survival & Nature skills with Expertise at 3rd level - Any terrain</td></tr><tr><td>Hide in Plain Sight - must stay still</td><td>Expertise in Stealth - can move</td></tr><tr><td>Vanish</td><td>Cunning Action</td></tr><tr><td>Feral Senses</td><td>Blindsight</td></tr><tr><td>Foe Slayer - only favored Enemy, maybe Favored Foe</td><td>Sneak Attack any creature. Now can now be used against 2 different targets on the same turn</td></tr><tr><td>Land Stride</td><td>No equivalent</td></tr></table><p></p><p>So other than Land's Stride and and the Animal Handling skill, each feature the ranger has is outdone by the Rogue Scout. And through a feat they can get Archery fighting style. And as I mentioned bear traps or other hunting traps require Thieves tools as per XGtE, which the ranger does not have as part of their class. </p><p>Classes are different and normally should not be compared to each other, but when you expect a class to have a role and an identity and it is not properly executed, and then to be outdone by another class/subclass, then there is an issue. The Rogue Scout is a slap in the face to the Ranger class.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ScuroNotte, post: 8459184, member: 6792788"] A Ranger is a hunter. A ranger is supposed to be the person to turn to help guide through the wilderness and survive. Its embarrassing when the party asks the ranger to lead them and they say "Sorry, wrong terrain. Maybe next time." Where are these skills? You can say the same for the Ranger. Other than Land's Stride, there is not other skill the scout can't do and better. Unless the ranger is their in favored terrain, their skills are greatly diminished. The Scout gets these skills and have them applicable in any terrain. The Nature skills are given to them at 3rd level (with Survival) with expertise on top of it. Animal skills, maybe a background or a skill feat. Let's compare; [TABLE] [TR] [TD]Favored Enemy/Foe/Hunter's Mark - 1 target/species[/TD] [TD]Sneak attack - any target, no concentration, unlimited uses[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Natural Explorer - Favored terrain only[/TD] [TD]More skills, expertise, Reliable Talent, Given Survival & Nature skills with Expertise at 3rd level - Any terrain[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Hide in Plain Sight - must stay still[/TD] [TD]Expertise in Stealth - can move[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Vanish[/TD] [TD]Cunning Action[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Feral Senses[/TD] [TD]Blindsight[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Foe Slayer - only favored Enemy, maybe Favored Foe[/TD] [TD]Sneak Attack any creature. Now can now be used against 2 different targets on the same turn[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Land Stride[/TD] [TD]No equivalent[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] So other than Land's Stride and and the Animal Handling skill, each feature the ranger has is outdone by the Rogue Scout. And through a feat they can get Archery fighting style. And as I mentioned bear traps or other hunting traps require Thieves tools as per XGtE, which the ranger does not have as part of their class. Classes are different and normally should not be compared to each other, but when you expect a class to have a role and an identity and it is not properly executed, and then to be outdone by another class/subclass, then there is an issue. The Rogue Scout is a slap in the face to the Ranger class. [/QUOTE]
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