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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 743906" data-attributes="member: 4937">cptg1481: Well, it wasn't an entirely serious post, but it was intended to prompt an introspective balanced post very much like yours from someone with your sort of background - for which I thank you.I get quite tired of 17 year olds claiming to be sixth level fighters because they've taken sport taikwando at some weekly for four years, or eighth level bards (spell casting and all I guess), because they are in a garage band.A post like yours brings a little more perspective to the subject, and shows the sort of intense skill aquisition and risks you have to go through before you can make reasonable claims of being experienced. I guess it really doesn't matter a whole lot whether or not some 18 year old player/DM thinks he's a 6th level expert with 18 INT, but I would hazard the guess that a player who thinks an ordinary person like himself is 6th level with extraordinary stats feels much less comfortable with 28 point buy than I do.In a way, I'm trying to make a backhanded point on how special even a 1st level PC really is.BTW, you'd make a great NPC (please take that as a complement), and any game writers out there that might be reading this should IMO make characters that more resemble that sort of realistic varied background.PS: Thanks for serving.Sixchan: Clearly even kids can earn skills, but I'm not entirely sure what to do with childhood in a level based system.&nbsp; For the record, I started playing chess at three, and was reading Twain and Poe at six.&nbsp; Whether any of that translated into more knowledge now, I couldn't say.&nbsp;&nbsp; In the D&amp;D paradym I'd say our childhood prepared us better for taking our first level in expert rather than commoner, but clearly that isn't going to work in the D20 modern system.&nbsp; *shrug*&nbsp; No one said this discussion actually meant anything.Good awareness + low wisdom otherwise = points in spot skill.&nbsp;&nbsp; Also, 'common sense' != wisdom.&nbsp;&nbsp; In some case, quite the contrary is actually true, so don't feel too bad.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 743906, member: 4937"] cptg1481: Well, it wasn't an entirely serious post, but it was intended to prompt an introspective balanced post very much like yours from someone with your sort of background - for which I thank you. I get quite tired of 17 year olds claiming to be sixth level fighters because they've taken sport taikwando at some weekly for four years, or eighth level bards (spell casting and all I guess), because they are in a garage band. A post like yours brings a little more perspective to the subject, and shows the sort of intense skill aquisition and risks you have to go through before you can make reasonable claims of being experienced. I guess it really doesn't matter a whole lot whether or not some 18 year old player/DM thinks he's a 6th level expert with 18 INT, but I would hazard the guess that a player who thinks an ordinary person like himself is 6th level with extraordinary stats feels much less comfortable with 28 point buy than I do. In a way, I'm trying to make a backhanded point on how special even a 1st level PC really is. BTW, you'd make a great NPC (please take that as a complement), and any game writers out there that might be reading this should IMO make characters that more resemble that sort of realistic varied background. PS: Thanks for serving. Sixchan: Clearly even kids can earn skills, but I'm not entirely sure what to do with childhood in a level based system. For the record, I started playing chess at three, and was reading Twain and Poe at six. Whether any of that translated into more knowledge now, I couldn't say. In the D&D paradym I'd say our childhood prepared us better for taking our first level in expert rather than commoner, but clearly that isn't going to work in the D20 modern system. *shrug* No one said this discussion actually meant anything. Good awareness + low wisdom otherwise = points in spot skill. Also, 'common sense' != wisdom. In some case, quite the contrary is actually true, so don't feel too bad. [/QUOTE]

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