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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 748273" data-attributes="member: 4937">Blackdirge: Actually, I disagree.  The two most overestimated stats are WIS and CHR, with CON coming in second.STR and INT are actually fairly easy to assign to some real world achievement.  Most people - and especially us 'geeks' - feel clumsy, so they tend to limit the DEX they assign unless they really can justify it with atheletic ability (although there are always a few who think there skill in video games is proof of 15 DEX, despite being other wise aware of thier clumsiness, slow feet, and inability to dance).WIS is completely different.  There is no standard of what wisdom means.  Most importantly, in order to properly assess your own wisdom, you have to have high wisdom in the first place.  Incompotent people are actually much more likely to see themselves as compotent than compotent people, and conversely a wise person is more likely to see himself as foolish than a fool is.  One litmus test might be, if prior to reading this paragraph you thought your wisdom was above average then your wisdom is probably below average (especially if the line of reasoning had not occurred to you before).CHR is different for a different reason.  Noone really likes to think of himself as an unlikable person.  As social animals, CHR is the trait by which we judge our own worth, whether we would or not.  It takes a pretty brave and wise person to realize and admit that his charisma is far below that of an average person.  No one wants to think of himself as having a 4 or 5 charisma, though personal experience tells me that such people are not that uncommon in the RPG world.CON is another one of those stats that I think ends up being a ego booster for unatheletic people.  If experiences on the playground have led you to the crushing conclusion that you aren't above average DEX and STR, then at the least you can claim above average CON through percieved disease resistance, pain tolerance, or what not.I note that noone is claiming stats like STR 8, DEX 8, CON 8, INT 14, WIS 8, CHR 8 even though experience has lead me to believe that such stats are not at all unreasonable for average RPer's (geeks).  Or maybe the only people brave enough to claim stats are those that are proud of them.</blockquote>

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