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<blockquote data-quote="Admiral Caine" data-source="post: 4589432" data-attributes="member: 60438"><p>My opening disclaimer is that I haven't had a lot of practical experience with multi-classing as a player. And I haven't GMed yet.. so everything I'm about to say is somewhat in the abstract.</p><p> </p><p>I see 3E mult-classing as a response to the fact that some players didn't like the Core classes as written, or they didn't like the fact that D&D is a classed based game and not a Point Allocation game.</p><p> </p><p>So, not liking the perception that their character has been stamped with a cookie cutter, multi-classing and optimization happens until players feel they have something more unique to play. Plus all the other benefits that come with multi-classing.</p><p> </p><p>4E comes along and taps the player on the shoulder and says, "Hey, this is a classed based game. Just in case you forgot that basic premise. M&M and True20 are over there."</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>It remains to be seen whether that is the right thing to do or not. Or if any disappointment with 4E's multi-classing options is due to unrealistic expectations considering a core mechanic of the game. Like being furious at D&D for not being M&M.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Bear in mind, I'm not passing a value judgment one way or another. </p><p> </p><p>If I do have a bias, as a GM, I tend to fall on the side of wondering why people have such a strong draw to hybridization. Though, I readily concede if you're burnt out on core material, then you're burnt out- and I can appreciate that.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>EDIT: And some of the hybridization can be munchkinism and twinkery as the previous poster pointed out. I suppose I'm responding to situations where that isn't strictly the case.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Admiral Caine, post: 4589432, member: 60438"] My opening disclaimer is that I haven't had a lot of practical experience with multi-classing as a player. And I haven't GMed yet.. so everything I'm about to say is somewhat in the abstract. I see 3E mult-classing as a response to the fact that some players didn't like the Core classes as written, or they didn't like the fact that D&D is a classed based game and not a Point Allocation game. So, not liking the perception that their character has been stamped with a cookie cutter, multi-classing and optimization happens until players feel they have something more unique to play. Plus all the other benefits that come with multi-classing. 4E comes along and taps the player on the shoulder and says, "Hey, this is a classed based game. Just in case you forgot that basic premise. M&M and True20 are over there." It remains to be seen whether that is the right thing to do or not. Or if any disappointment with 4E's multi-classing options is due to unrealistic expectations considering a core mechanic of the game. Like being furious at D&D for not being M&M. Bear in mind, I'm not passing a value judgment one way or another. If I do have a bias, as a GM, I tend to fall on the side of wondering why people have such a strong draw to hybridization. Though, I readily concede if you're burnt out on core material, then you're burnt out- and I can appreciate that. EDIT: And some of the hybridization can be munchkinism and twinkery as the previous poster pointed out. I suppose I'm responding to situations where that isn't strictly the case. [/QUOTE]
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