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<blockquote data-quote="Reynard" data-source="post: 3784396" data-attributes="member: 467"><p>I think someone needs to go back and read the Design and Development article that includes the dragon fight. I mean, wow...</p><p></p><p>Anyway, on subject: My biggest concerns with 4e are a) it will not be easily adapted "back" to what D&D actually is (at least for me and those that started the game in the "olden days") and b) it will continue the trend of removing right and responsibility from the DM in favor of giving those things to the players. Throughout the life of the game we have seen the rule books -- it starts with "late edition" suuplements and creeps into the core books of the next edition -- regularly and continuously reduce the importance and power of the DM to make the game less "unfun" for the players. We have yet to see anything for 4e that suggests this trend will be reversed. DMs do 90% of the work and are responsible for 90% of the fun had at the table, and as they say, with great responsbility comes great power...</p><p></p><p>Give the DM back his ability to craft a good game without fantaical adherence to rules as written. Remind the players -- right there in the PHB, preferably on the first page -- that the DM isn't just "always right" but that the DM needs to have the freedom and power to change things and choose things to make a better game. So long as the game continues to be more and more about player empowerment and character badassitude, though, we'll continue to see the DM harried and emasculated by the rule books.</p><p></p><p>If 4e gives the DM his "viking hat" (someone was going to snark about it, so why not me?) back, I might look into the game. Otherwise, the game's gone out of print, AFAIC.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Reynard, post: 3784396, member: 467"] I think someone needs to go back and read the Design and Development article that includes the dragon fight. I mean, wow... Anyway, on subject: My biggest concerns with 4e are a) it will not be easily adapted "back" to what D&D actually is (at least for me and those that started the game in the "olden days") and b) it will continue the trend of removing right and responsibility from the DM in favor of giving those things to the players. Throughout the life of the game we have seen the rule books -- it starts with "late edition" suuplements and creeps into the core books of the next edition -- regularly and continuously reduce the importance and power of the DM to make the game less "unfun" for the players. We have yet to see anything for 4e that suggests this trend will be reversed. DMs do 90% of the work and are responsible for 90% of the fun had at the table, and as they say, with great responsbility comes great power... Give the DM back his ability to craft a good game without fantaical adherence to rules as written. Remind the players -- right there in the PHB, preferably on the first page -- that the DM isn't just "always right" but that the DM needs to have the freedom and power to change things and choose things to make a better game. So long as the game continues to be more and more about player empowerment and character badassitude, though, we'll continue to see the DM harried and emasculated by the rule books. If 4e gives the DM his "viking hat" (someone was going to snark about it, so why not me?) back, I might look into the game. Otherwise, the game's gone out of print, AFAIC. [/QUOTE]
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