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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Whimsical" data-source="post: 3295429" data-attributes="member: 3976">I also use Gather Info and Diplomacy. My 12th level party was visiting Sasserine to buy magic items. The "Diplomancer" rolls a gather information check and what the roll result reflects is that the PC has found out who in the area possesses this item, regardless of whether it is intended to be sold or not. I use the DC 10 + gp/2000 formula for a Large City like Sasserine, with a +10 DC modifier for items that are greater than the 40,000 gp city gp limit. For every point above the DC, the character has found an additional possessor of the item. This can affect his single diplomacy check to acquire the item.two possessors found = +2 Diplomacythree or four possessors = + 4 Diplomacyfive to eight possessors = +6 Diplomacynine to 16 possessors = +8 Diplomacyand so on.Rolling a DC 45 in a Large City result when searching for rings of protection will reveal one possessor of a +5 ring, 19 possessors of a +4 ring, 26 possessors of a +3 ring, 36 possessors of a +4 ring, and 39 possessors of a +1 ring. DC 45 can be achieved by someone with a +25 Gather Info taking twenty, which takes (1d4+1)x20 hours.What's fun is informing the player that his Gather Info check has revealed to him that one of his fellow PCs has the item he is looking for.For buying and selling, I use a simple formula:Buying = 110% - Diplomacy result% of book valueSelling = 40% + Diplomacy result% of book valueIf the NPC they are selling to or buying from beats their diplomacy check with their opposed diplomacy check, then they just buy at book value and sell at half book value.This formula breaks down for me at higher levels simply because I believe that the famous PCs would be able to sell the magic items that they have used in their legendary exploits for double or triple book value. But I chalk it up to game balance and that they are already getting more than the wealth expected for their level because they have a diplomancer (diplomonster) in the party.</blockquote>

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