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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ergeheilalt" data-source="post: 1071741" data-attributes="member: 3460">I suppose the attitudes men exhibit in your statements and questions go beyond gamers, as I have scene it in different social "groups".First, let me say that I play online with 2 female gamers, both very different. One has a great grasp for the rules and takes on her persona (up to this time, all females) very well. She is well liked by the group (5 other guys). As much as be "bag" on women (which is rare, we mostly jibe the paladin), she can shoot out funny quips just as readily. The other has a rough idea of the rules (shes played since second edition), but is a tad bit ditsy. We (a different group than the first, 6 other fellas), get frustrated at times, but overall we enjoy her company. I'm in two other groups with no women (one table top, one online), and I find them to be less interesting.It seems to me that the experience you've had stem from a different group aspect. I know my friend and his group view their game as a "guys night". It could be that you've joined a group of gamers who take that view, seeing their gaming like guy's poker game - a place to complain about and bash women. If that is the kind of behavior you are greeted with, you might need to seek a group who find women a valuable addition to their group rather than an "irrational, temperamental" burden.Good luck in your search,Erge</blockquote>