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<blockquote data-quote="howandwhy99" data-source="post: 1073106" data-attributes="member: 3192"><p>Wow! I'm amazed this topic hasn't fallen under the no-politics/religion rule. </p><p></p><p>But moreso, I'm impressed by how people have worked to keep things mature, rather than regress into name-calling. Especially with some radically different beliefs being tossed around.</p><p></p><p>As to my own beliefs, I think D&D is still very much thought of as a male teenager activity by society at large. And do no see how the demographics of it have aged and diversified. I still see D&D as more male-dominated than, say, WoD LARPs. It's more difficult for me personally to find female gamers than male ones. </p><p></p><p>I think that with the renewed fame of D&D maybe these perceptions could be changed. I know that D&D has traditionally focused more on being the hero who slays the dragon, gets the gold, and rescues the lady in distress. This being more stereotypical male wish-fulfillment.</p><p></p><p>When asking many of the women I know who don't game if they'd like to join, I typically get an "Uhh... no". So, I prefer to incorporate play that allows for stereotypical female wish-fulfillment, too. Unfortunately, it's been a hard sell to the men in my past groups.</p><p></p><p>Imagine, instead of suggesting (to a female nongamer) "a night of D&D", one could say: "I'm roleplaying with several friends tonite. If you'd like to, you can come. We tend to play out a lot of romantic and fun stories. Most of the men are a damn good charmers. The women tend to be swashbucklers or courtesans. One is even playing a princess. If you have interesting character idea, I'm sure it could be included. What do you think?"</p><p></p><p>Granted this would work better with older rather than younger players. But maybe shifting to a more gender-balanced game at older ages would be a good thing? Then maybe we'd hear fewer stories like Afrodyte's. It saddens me that so many female gamers I've known can relate with their own stories. I'm all for ongoing evolution of the RPG's and I think a maturing of the hobby is occuring. </p><p></p><p>What I disagree with is the design and definition of the new 'mature' games.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="howandwhy99, post: 1073106, member: 3192"] Wow! I'm amazed this topic hasn't fallen under the no-politics/religion rule. But moreso, I'm impressed by how people have worked to keep things mature, rather than regress into name-calling. Especially with some radically different beliefs being tossed around. As to my own beliefs, I think D&D is still very much thought of as a male teenager activity by society at large. And do no see how the demographics of it have aged and diversified. I still see D&D as more male-dominated than, say, WoD LARPs. It's more difficult for me personally to find female gamers than male ones. I think that with the renewed fame of D&D maybe these perceptions could be changed. I know that D&D has traditionally focused more on being the hero who slays the dragon, gets the gold, and rescues the lady in distress. This being more stereotypical male wish-fulfillment. When asking many of the women I know who don't game if they'd like to join, I typically get an "Uhh... no". So, I prefer to incorporate play that allows for stereotypical female wish-fulfillment, too. Unfortunately, it's been a hard sell to the men in my past groups. Imagine, instead of suggesting (to a female nongamer) "a night of D&D", one could say: "I'm roleplaying with several friends tonite. If you'd like to, you can come. We tend to play out a lot of romantic and fun stories. Most of the men are a damn good charmers. The women tend to be swashbucklers or courtesans. One is even playing a princess. If you have interesting character idea, I'm sure it could be included. What do you think?" Granted this would work better with older rather than younger players. But maybe shifting to a more gender-balanced game at older ages would be a good thing? Then maybe we'd hear fewer stories like Afrodyte's. It saddens me that so many female gamers I've known can relate with their own stories. I'm all for ongoing evolution of the RPG's and I think a maturing of the hobby is occuring. What I disagree with is the design and definition of the new 'mature' games. [/QUOTE]
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