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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Desdichado" data-source="post: 1079976" data-attributes="member: 2205">Yeah, that tends to come across as a particular irony.  And it just goes to show you that there's a massive difference between successful understanding and successful application of what the book is trying to tell you.The fact that it's a "light pop-psychology read" which I wouldn't disagree with, doesn't lessen the value of what it says.  It told me a lot of stuff that hadn't occured to me (about myself as much as about my wife) at least.  Was it intuitive?  Yeah, but sometimes that kind of stuff needs to be pointed out in plain English.Yep, exactly.  Me?  I tend to come from pretty tolerant groups that are flexible in terms of style, to a certain extent.  But that's what works for us, and that's all I'd claim it is.  I've been with other groups that played other ways, and had a good time with them even.I'd agree with this.  I said earlier that I don't accept that a sample cross-section of gamers is significantly different than a sample cross-section of any other demographic, and I think that applies here as well.  Treat women gamers the same way you would other women in other situations.  If that means being a jerk to them, then your problems go much deeper than what roleplaying can address.</blockquote>