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Message: <blockquote data-quote="payn" data-source="post: 9343664" data-attributes="member: 90374">My old man was really into sports. Not just watching, but playing them. He did competitive fast pitch softball for decades. He is in the state hall of fame. These guys take the game very seriously. Metal cleats, top of the line equipment, practice etc.. A lot of leagues out there are just for folks to what to socialize, get a little sun, maybe some exercise. They use slow pitch and have a casual approach. The old man's league wouldnt take a casual player, but occasionally my old man would play in  a casual league. Me, im a biker. I love to get my miles in whenever I can. One thing I learned when I first started and could barely get up a hill, was that there is always somebody faster and always somebody slower. Folks are at different speeds and abilities and sometimes they get better, and sometimes they stay exactly the same. Yes and no. I do agree that most groups are a mix of interests. Sometimes thats functional, sometimes its not. If Bob is a often tardy inattentive beer and pretzels player, you gotta learn to except it. Temper your expectations. If you cant, my advice is to politely excuse yourself. I dont feel any duty to suffer every gamer I come across, but im not a jerk about it either.  Yeah I stopped joining pick up groups awhile back. I found a motley assortment of players with no other bond but enjoying RPGs is not enough. I want a curated group that enjoys the same play style, setting, system, etc.. So, I start with finding my ideal group. Usually, that a combination of organized play, one shots, cons, etc.. Meet people, have dicussions, see how it shakes out. Eventually, I find a solid group. I will play with friends and more casual players, but I know to temper my expectations. I usually dont join these unless my first needs are met. Then, I'll join up for the social aspect and enjoy the game for what it is.</blockquote>

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