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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jmucchiello" data-source="post: 466986" data-attributes="member: 813">Just to clarify: I wasn't calling the downloaders names*. I was calling the uploader names. The uploader who thinks he's doing mankind a service, or that he's so L33T cause his wares drive has more Gigs than your wares drive, or that he's sticking it to the corporations, or whatever. That guy is the name I called him.* Downloader can be try and buyers. There aren't a lot of these types but there are enough of them that I cannot lump them in the outright a**holes that are uploaders. People who download and use the stuff but don't pay for it are pathetic.As for fair use, well, without the copy loaned to the DM, there's no way to use the material. Who wants to sell a useless product?Joe</blockquote>