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<blockquote data-quote="Forrester" data-source="post: 111644" data-attributes="member: 1279">Re: Re: How about Fire giants instead of Red Dragons?Fire giants are Large creatures (almost Huge), with 31 strength and massive BAB. That better be one helluva big bola if you plan to win a grapple check with it. I remain skeptical, twink-boy <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />! Does your DM really let you get away with that kind of nonsense?And, Brilliantus, you aren't doing an &quot;average&quot; of 82pts/round if you are ASSUMING you hit every single time -- unless you are hitting on 2s. (In which case I'm willing to round.) My guess is that you're not. Especially if you're going against Fire Giants who have magical armor, better dex than average, etc.&nbsp; And if you're in melee against them, you're kind of risking getting smacked with one of those big-ass swords, aren't you? Drawing AoOs and everything. Tsk tsk. And unless you're flying, no, you aren't hitting vitals. Yeah, I know, there's arteries everywhere, sure there are, that's the usual rogue argument to weenie out of the PHB passage I quoted before. Nice try <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />.And I'm doing this with a 10th level PC, not 11th <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />. So there.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Forrester, post: 111644, member: 1279"] [b]Re: Re: How about Fire giants instead of Red Dragons?[/b] Fire giants are Large creatures (almost Huge), with 31 strength and massive BAB. That better be one helluva big bola if you plan to win a grapple check with it. I remain skeptical, twink-boy :D! Does your DM really let you get away with that kind of nonsense? And, Brilliantus, you aren't doing an "average" of 82pts/round if you are ASSUMING you hit every single time -- unless you are hitting on 2s. (In which case I'm willing to round.) My guess is that you're not. Especially if you're going against Fire Giants who have magical armor, better dex than average, etc. And if you're in melee against them, you're kind of risking getting smacked with one of those big-ass swords, aren't you? Drawing AoOs and everything. Tsk tsk. And unless you're flying, no, you aren't hitting vitals. Yeah, I know, there's arteries everywhere, sure there are, that's the usual rogue argument to weenie out of the PHB passage I quoted before. Nice try :). And I'm doing this with a 10th level PC, not 11th :). So there. [/QUOTE]

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