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<blockquote data-quote="Caliban" data-source="post: 113413" data-attributes="member: 284">It does make logical sense: A sneak attack is already a type of critical.&nbsp;&nbsp; Since it's already hitting in a critical spot, gettin a natural critical won't increase it any.&nbsp; It just doubles the weapon damage (you twist it in the wound or something). The fact that it's cold damage means it gets doubled no matter where you hit them, even if it's not a critical (unless there is a save involved).&nbsp; It being a critical is irrelevant, because a critical increases the damage based on where you hit them, not on what you hit them with.&nbsp;&nbsp; Now the base damage from the ray of frost will be doubled because it's cold, and tripled on a critical (because of the D&amp;D multiplying rules).&nbsp;&nbsp; It does one extra d3 because it's cold, and one extra d3 because it hit in a vulnerable spot.&nbsp; &nbsp; You may be overthinking it.&nbsp;&nbsp; Taking extra damage because you are vulnerable to a specific attack form seems to be completely seperate from taking extra damage because of where the attack hit you.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Caliban, post: 113413, member: 284"] It does make logical sense: A sneak attack is already a type of critical. Since it's already hitting in a critical spot, gettin a natural critical won't increase it any. It just doubles the weapon damage (you twist it in the wound or something). [b][/b] The fact that it's cold damage means it gets doubled no matter where you hit them, even if it's not a critical (unless there is a save involved). It being a critical is irrelevant, because a critical increases the damage based on where you hit them, not on what you hit them with. Now the base damage from the [i]ray of frost[/i] will be doubled because it's cold, and tripled on a critical (because of the D&D multiplying rules). It does one extra d3 because it's cold, and one extra d3 because it hit in a vulnerable spot. [b][/B] You may be overthinking it. Taking extra damage because you are vulnerable to a specific attack form seems to be completely seperate from taking extra damage because of where the attack hit you. [/QUOTE]

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