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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Wyrmshadows" data-source="post: 4005500" data-attributes="member: 56166">What type of settings, from vanilla fantasy like Forgotten Realms and Greyhawk (pseudo-european with knights, maidens, Tolkien tropes and standard D&Disms), quite distinctive fantasy like Midnight, Conan D20 (referring to the Hyborian setting and not the variant rule set) and Dawnforge or really unique fantasy settings like Dark Sun Nyambe, Al Qadim or Oriental Adventures (L5R)?Personally I am in favor of settings with a strong character and feel such as Midnight and Nyambe where I cannot mistake the game I running on these settings with a FR game. Personally, though it has taken me awhile, I have grown very tired of vanilla D&D fantasy. I am tired of settings I can hot swap with one another and with only slight modification not even notice the difference between them in regards to basic assumptions.When I am DMing a published setting, I want to feel like I am not just DMing another FR, GH, rip off...I want it to have its own soul built in so that my players can notice "We're not in Kansas anymore Toto." Derivative is fine, I'm not looking for the alien of Tekumel (empire of the Petal Throne) which IMO can make things burdensome but instead 3rd party settings that take a familiar idea and turn it on its head. Good examples are Midnight's spin on a post Sauron middle earth type of setting, Conan's Hyboria with its grittiness and distinctness (there aren't inns run by beholders or demon-people walking around with no one really caring) or Dawnforge with its ancient world/age of heroes assumptions. Give me some non-european settings too where I feel like I am DMing in fantasy Asia (L5R), Tribal Africa (Nyambe), Egypt (Hamunaptra), the ancient Middle East (Testament), etc.  I want settings from 3rd party publishers with a heart and soul of their own. And I don't think that real flavor is merely taking D&D pseudo-europe and tossing in some weird races such as tieflings and dragonborn. A unique setting builds the rules around itself so that the rules serve the setting and the atmosphere and not the other way around. I don't expect WoTC to create these kinds of settings because they are in the buisness of selling core books and it would be bad buisness sense to create setting that don't use all the core material but I know that 3rd party publishers have the freedom to create without core book sales as their overriding concern. I hope to see some innovative and unique settings for 4e.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> Feel free to discuss.Wyrmshadows</blockquote>

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