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<blockquote data-quote="TheSword" data-source="post: 8537519" data-attributes="member: 6879661">The reality is that dealing large amounts of damage to a single foe is the most useful ability in the game. It’s useful in most encounters, in most environments, and at every level. Similarly the ability to take damage and hits is almost as useful.A wizard is much more powerful when they have a fighter between them and the enemy. I am gobsmacked that 13 people think a 1st level fighter isn’t streets ahead of a wizard at level 1. When a wizard gets 2 1st level spell slots and is basically a walking bag of death saves. I smell an ideological agenda, rather than engaging with the reality of playing a wizard at 1st level.It’s worth noting that the fighter can also have 4th level wizard spells at 20th level. Can also fly already for some races and have a host of other abilities through an abundance of feats. For those that want those abilities.The truth is that being able to use shenanigans appeals to some players and some players just want to kick the living $#!¥ out of something. I’m ok with that. [Edit] It probably would have made sense in the OP to make it clear whether you were talking about power or shenanigans. Comparing the two is almost impossible as they’re fundamentally different things.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="TheSword, post: 8537519, member: 6879661"] The reality is that dealing large amounts of damage to a single foe is [B]the[/B] most useful ability in the game. It’s useful in most encounters, in most environments, and at every level. Similarly the ability to take damage and hits is almost as useful. A wizard is much more powerful when they have a fighter between them and the enemy. I am gobsmacked that 13 people think a 1st level fighter isn’t streets ahead of a wizard at level 1. When a wizard gets 2 1st level spell slots and is basically a walking bag of death saves. I smell an ideological agenda, rather than engaging with the reality of playing a wizard at 1st level. It’s worth noting that the fighter can also have 4th level wizard spells at 20th level. Can also fly already for some races and have a host of other abilities through an abundance of feats. For those that want those abilities. The truth is that being able to use shenanigans appeals to some players and some players just want to kick the living $#!¥ out of something. I’m ok with that. [Edit] It probably would have made sense in the OP to make it clear whether you were talking about power or shenanigans. Comparing the two is almost impossible as they’re fundamentally different things. [/QUOTE]

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