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What Level is the Wizard vs. the Fighter?
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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 8537747" data-attributes="member: 6790260"><p>Interesting. This would imply that Wizard gains power (approximately) 40% to 50% faster than Fighters, at least in the perspective of those who think there's a deviation. (10/7 = 1.42857..., 20/13 = 1.5385...)</p><p></p><p>Given this...perhaps lopping off the top two levels of spells and redistributing them would work, since I know you're keen on more dramatic alterations of the rules? If 8th and 9th level spells were deleted, and spells were more spread out (e.g. 1st level spells at level 1, then new spells at every multiple of 3, so third, sixth, ninth level, etc. maxing out at 7th level spells at level 18), then you'd have the equivalent power to a current 7th-level wizard (access to 4th level spells) at level (4-1)*3 = 9, making only a single level difference, and you'd reach 13th level power (access to 7th level spells) at (7-1)*3 = 18, a difference of only two levels, and not something reached by every campaign anyway.</p><p></p><p>Obviously you'd treat all full-casters the same way to make the depowering uniform. This is highly speculative so I can't be sure what all effects it would have. Perhaps the ultimate top-end spells become something you have to sink a feat into, as was done with certain powerful things in the Baldur's Gate games? I could see Wish as a feat that requires your level 19 Wizard ASI--a way to reward non-MC characters.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 8537747, member: 6790260"] Interesting. This would imply that Wizard gains power (approximately) 40% to 50% faster than Fighters, at least in the perspective of those who think there's a deviation. (10/7 = 1.42857..., 20/13 = 1.5385...) Given this...perhaps lopping off the top two levels of spells and redistributing them would work, since I know you're keen on more dramatic alterations of the rules? If 8th and 9th level spells were deleted, and spells were more spread out (e.g. 1st level spells at level 1, then new spells at every multiple of 3, so third, sixth, ninth level, etc. maxing out at 7th level spells at level 18), then you'd have the equivalent power to a current 7th-level wizard (access to 4th level spells) at level (4-1)*3 = 9, making only a single level difference, and you'd reach 13th level power (access to 7th level spells) at (7-1)*3 = 18, a difference of only two levels, and not something reached by every campaign anyway. Obviously you'd treat all full-casters the same way to make the depowering uniform. This is highly speculative so I can't be sure what all effects it would have. Perhaps the ultimate top-end spells become something you have to sink a feat into, as was done with certain powerful things in the Baldur's Gate games? I could see Wish as a feat that requires your level 19 Wizard ASI--a way to reward non-MC characters. [/QUOTE]
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