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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Minigiant" data-source="post: 8539059" data-attributes="member: 63508">Community sentiments of the state of mid-high level suggest that it wasn't playtested well or enough within the parameters they suggested.. Fighters don't have enough superiority dice to grind down 8 encounters of the huge sacks of HP printed in the MM without heavy buffing via spells. Especially without use of control and utility magic or optional feats.Neither can wizards or clerics grind them down. However killing isn't the wizards or cleric's primary nor secondary jobs. That's why the 13-16 range on the poll has so many votes. There are so many monsters with tons of traits, scary attacks, and over 100 HP.I don't think the designers intended people to play 5e without magic items, feats, and half the party not being full casters with DM playing straight by the book. They expected you to use some of the "options".</blockquote>