Reply to thread

Message

<blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 8539695" data-attributes="member: 87792">I am shocked, shocked to discover that someone who literally calls themself TheSword values combat above literally everything else.All teasing aside this is very situational. A fighter is functionally a commoner of their level out of combat while a wizard gets spells. The relative importance of combat is different from campaign to campaign; in my current Wild Beyond the Wychlight campaign the PCs are about to hit level 3. You know how many combats they've had so far? One. (They've had plenty of encounters - just most of them aren't combat). In the previous dungeon crawl campaign with the same group at first and second level the barbarian might have been the strongest PC. But in the current one they're the weakest because the value of a combat focus is very different and the wizard has made bank out of the minor illusion and mage hand cantrips and Investigation and Arcana have been useful.Not having feats definitely hurts the fighter and the rogue more because those are the two classes that get extra ASI/Feats. But I can't agree with you about multiclassing; there's little reason for a fighter to not multiclass after level 11 while by contrast multiclassing a single level as a wizard into either cleric or artificer means you get to learn top level spells&nbsp; a level late, which can be a serious issue.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Neonchameleon, post: 8539695, member: 87792"] I am shocked, shocked to discover that someone who literally calls themself TheSword values combat above literally everything else. All teasing aside this is very situational. A fighter is functionally a commoner of their level out of combat while a wizard gets spells. The relative importance of combat is different from campaign to campaign; in my current Wild Beyond the Wychlight campaign the PCs are about to hit level 3. You know how many combats they've had so far? [I]One.[/I] (They've had plenty of encounters - just most of them aren't combat). In the previous dungeon crawl campaign with the same group at first and second level the barbarian might have been the strongest PC. But in the current one they're the weakest because the value of a combat focus is very different and the wizard has made bank out of the minor illusion and mage hand cantrips and Investigation and Arcana have been useful. Not having feats [I]definitely[/I] hurts the fighter and the rogue more because those are the two classes that get extra ASI/Feats. But I can't agree with you about multiclassing; there's little reason for a fighter to [I]not[/I] multiclass after level 11 while by contrast multiclassing a single level as a wizard into either cleric or artificer means you get to learn top level spells a level late, which can be a serious issue. [/QUOTE]

Verification