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<blockquote data-quote="HammerMan" data-source="post: 8543449" data-attributes="member: 84112">how many of those years of 2e (my 2nd favorite and system I started with so no hate) was well the company was going down and going bankrupt...3rd edition had a full rewerite...not an &quot;PHB+this&quot; like essentials 3.5 rewrote the PHB classes. so it is more like 3e 3 years 3.5 5 years.but great way to manipulate the numbers.okay... so we have 0 info for 1 e and 2 e market share (some gut feeling and base ideas says #1 but bu 10% or 700% is anyones guess)5e grew the market more then any AD&amp;D version... very true, and it was never less successful then a competitor... you need to move to when WOTC was putting out only a single and last supliment and Piazo had multiple to see piazo creep ahead...I can out run Mr Bolt if he is asleep of watching a TV show in a recliner... that doesn't mean I can out run him when he is running.and at no point was it ever less successful then pathfinder... now if pathfinder wasn't there it would have not competied with a previus version of itself in a way no other edition had (and IMO would have lasted longer and been pushed farther) but even WITH that problem it never fell behind... just wasn't as ahead as it used to be.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="HammerMan, post: 8543449, member: 84112"] how many of those years of 2e (my 2nd favorite and system I started with so no hate) was well the company was going down and going bankrupt... 3rd edition had a full rewerite...not an "PHB+this" like essentials 3.5 rewrote the PHB classes. so it is more like 3e 3 years 3.5 5 years. but great way to manipulate the numbers. okay... so we have 0 info for 1 e and 2 e market share (some gut feeling and base ideas says #1 but bu 10% or 700% is anyones guess) 5e grew the market more then any AD&D version... very true, and it was never less successful then a competitor... you need to move to when WOTC was putting out only a single and last supliment and Piazo had multiple to see piazo creep ahead... I can out run Mr Bolt if he is asleep of watching a TV show in a recliner... that doesn't mean I can out run him when he is running. and at no point was it ever less successful then pathfinder... now if pathfinder wasn't there it would have not competied with a previus version of itself in a way no other edition had (and IMO would have lasted longer and been pushed farther) but even WITH that problem it never fell behind... just wasn't as ahead as it used to be. [/QUOTE]

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