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<blockquote data-quote="Arkhandus" data-source="post: 4071919" data-attributes="member: 13966">First, note that in 3.5e, threat range increases don't stack for the most part (rather, Improved Critical doesn't stack with other stuff, and the Keen property doesn't stack with other stuff, IIRC).Second, note that you are not required to wield the weapons associated with a particular discipline.&nbsp; For example, while Shadow Hand includes the short sword as one of its weapons, you can still make full use of Shadow Hand maneuvers and stances when wielding, say, a warhammer or a greatsword.&nbsp; Only the Shadow Blade feat and the Blade Meditation (Shadow Hand) feat actually require use of Shadow Hand weapons in order to gain the feats' benefits.&nbsp; Similarly handled for other disciplines.If you want the stance to only apply with Black Lotus weapons, then you must say so explicitly in the stance description.And, since it stacks with other effects like it, you should probably make it an 8th-level stance.&nbsp; But, maybe it's fine at 6th-level, I dunno.&nbsp; 3.5e just has this stupid thing against weapons with decent threat ranges.Regardless, it is DEFINITELY not lower than 6th-level as a stance.&nbsp; As others have said, it's much stronger than the Improved Critical feat, which is only available at middle or upper levels.&nbsp; The stance should have a prerequisite of, say 3 or 4 other Black Lotus maneuvers.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Arkhandus, post: 4071919, member: 13966"] First, note that in 3.5e, threat range increases don't stack for the most part (rather, Improved Critical doesn't stack with other stuff, and the Keen property doesn't stack with other stuff, IIRC). Second, note that you are not required to wield the weapons associated with a particular discipline. For example, while Shadow Hand includes the short sword as one of its weapons, you can still make full use of Shadow Hand maneuvers and stances when wielding, say, a warhammer or a greatsword. Only the Shadow Blade feat and the Blade Meditation (Shadow Hand) feat actually require use of Shadow Hand weapons in order to gain the feats' benefits. Similarly handled for other disciplines. If you want the stance to only apply with Black Lotus weapons, then you must say so explicitly in the stance description. And, since it stacks with other effects like it, you should probably make it an 8th-level stance. But, maybe it's fine at 6th-level, I dunno. 3.5e just has this stupid thing against weapons with decent threat ranges. Regardless, it is DEFINITELY not lower than 6th-level as a stance. As others have said, it's much stronger than the Improved Critical feat, which is only available at middle or upper levels. The stance should have a prerequisite of, say 3 or 4 other Black Lotus maneuvers. [/QUOTE]

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