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<blockquote data-quote="med stud" data-source="post: 2381670" data-attributes="member: 1211"><p>Well yes but so was the rulers of England in that case <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> (the Normands were a bunch of Vikings that got Normandy in exchange for not sacking Paris all the time (if my sources are correct of course)). Unless they were Vikings at the time I'm not sure it counts. Otherwise I would be a Viking (as a descendant) which would be cool but not really correct <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />. Anyway the Rus/founding of Russia theory is pretty solid but it has some opponents.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yeah that was the route of the Swedish Vikings. The Norwegian and Danish Vikings mostly plundered in Western Europe while the Swedes went East, plundering and trading. </p><p></p><p>The Vikings are actually pretty interesting here considering that they were in many ways similiar to the Huns and Mongols; they had lots of good warriors (the Viking infighting was much greater than the fighting against Europeans; Europe was the "Dungeon" of the Vikings so to say, where they got gold and stuff), very effective weapons (the Mongols had the mounted archers, the Vikings had very good ships) and a lack of a strong culture. Both the Vikings and the Mongols were assimilated very fast into the cultures they conquered. About three generations after getting Normandy the Normands were talking French and had French names. The same thing really went for the Russians; when the ass kicking was over the Vikings didn't really have much to offer and instead took the culture of the natives.</p><p></p><p>Note: Everything above might of course be wrong, I have read most of it only in one source per piece of information. I don't think it's wrong, though, or I wouldn't have written it <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="med stud, post: 2381670, member: 1211"] Well yes but so was the rulers of England in that case ;) (the Normands were a bunch of Vikings that got Normandy in exchange for not sacking Paris all the time (if my sources are correct of course)). Unless they were Vikings at the time I'm not sure it counts. Otherwise I would be a Viking (as a descendant) which would be cool but not really correct ;). Anyway the Rus/founding of Russia theory is pretty solid but it has some opponents. Yeah that was the route of the Swedish Vikings. The Norwegian and Danish Vikings mostly plundered in Western Europe while the Swedes went East, plundering and trading. The Vikings are actually pretty interesting here considering that they were in many ways similiar to the Huns and Mongols; they had lots of good warriors (the Viking infighting was much greater than the fighting against Europeans; Europe was the "Dungeon" of the Vikings so to say, where they got gold and stuff), very effective weapons (the Mongols had the mounted archers, the Vikings had very good ships) and a lack of a strong culture. Both the Vikings and the Mongols were assimilated very fast into the cultures they conquered. About three generations after getting Normandy the Normands were talking French and had French names. The same thing really went for the Russians; when the ass kicking was over the Vikings didn't really have much to offer and instead took the culture of the natives. Note: Everything above might of course be wrong, I have read most of it only in one source per piece of information. I don't think it's wrong, though, or I wouldn't have written it ;) [/QUOTE]
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