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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 6833976" data-attributes="member: 996">The question here is basically neo-Vancian or variant (and if so, which one).&nbsp; So Sorcerer/Warlocks/etc aren't the focus.&nbsp; Do you like Druids, Clerics, &amp; Wizards to use by-the-book neo-Vancian (prep any known spells, cast with slots spontaneously), or is there an alternate system you like better?Edit:&nbsp; The distinction that I tried to draw between old-school and 3.5 'Vancian' was that under old-school, you literally 'memorized' and 'forgot' spells, while in 3.5 you 'prepared' a spells, performing most of it in advance, then triggered or finished it to cast.&nbsp;&nbsp; I remember 'memorization' being very controversial back in the day, and 'preparation' seemed like a big difference.&nbsp; Maybe it's not as significant a distinction as I thought.&nbsp; Also in 3.x you had cantrips with their own slots, while cantrips were a late addition to classic and were memorized 4 to a 1st level slot.&nbsp; Cantrips seem to be an issue for some folks.Anyway, it's nothing to do with 3.5 Spontaneous casting.Edit:&nbsp; It seems doing away with at-will cantrips is not as big as some of the discussions here might have made it seem.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 6833976, member: 996"] The question here is basically neo-Vancian or variant (and if so, which one). So Sorcerer/Warlocks/etc aren't the focus. Do you like Druids, Clerics, & Wizards to use by-the-book neo-Vancian (prep any known spells, cast with slots spontaneously), or is there an alternate system you like better? [i]Edit: The distinction that I tried to draw between old-school and 3.5 'Vancian' was that under old-school, you literally 'memorized' and 'forgot' spells, while in 3.5 you 'prepared' a spells, performing most of it in advance, then triggered or finished it to cast. I remember 'memorization' being very controversial back in the day, and 'preparation' seemed like a big difference. Maybe it's not as significant a distinction as I thought. Also in 3.x you had cantrips with their own slots, while cantrips were a late addition to classic and were memorized 4 to a 1st level slot. Cantrips seem to be an issue for some folks. Anyway, it's nothing to do with 3.5 Spontaneous casting.[/i] [i]Edit: It seems doing away with at-will cantrips is not as big as some of the discussions here might have made it seem.[/i] [/QUOTE]

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