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<blockquote data-quote="_sheepy_" data-source="post: 4192794" data-attributes="member: 61101">1) Yes I think so, if bard remains a leader instead of being mixed role like druid.&nbsp; Just look at cleric.2) I would agree those before me that &quot;what makes the bard&quot; depends on the player.&nbsp; For me it is its versatility and diversity.&nbsp; You can make it good at a few things, you can focus on one thing, you can make it a true jack of all trades (don't...).&nbsp; Kind of like druid, but with much less attachments and much simpler rules.In my current underpowered lv 7 game (underpowered due to PCs' play style) I am, as a bard, the party wizard, the party rogue, the party spokeswoman, the walking database of the world, and the party chef, filling the big gaps of the otherwise oriental party.&nbsp; Luckily not the party maid...... however you can call me &quot;the nurse&quot;, too, and I suspect she holds the only bow in the whole party...Party buffing is more like one of bards' few viable direction rather then what make bard stands out.&nbsp;&nbsp; Wizards and Cleric can do good buffing AND patching, too.&nbsp; Music is unique, but that is uniqueness not core value.&nbsp; Rogue can be good with social if they want, and even druids can have diplomacy (mine do).&nbsp; That is why to me, as a player, it is versatility that makes a bard a bard.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="_sheepy_, post: 4192794, member: 61101"] 1) Yes I think so, if bard remains a leader instead of being mixed role like druid. Just look at cleric. 2) I would agree those before me that "what makes the bard" depends on the player. For me it is its versatility and diversity. You can make it good at a few things, you can focus on one thing, you can make it a true jack of all trades (don't...). Kind of like druid, but with much less attachments and much simpler rules. In my current underpowered lv 7 game (underpowered due to PCs' play style) I am, as a bard, the party wizard, the party rogue, the party spokeswoman, the walking database of the world, and the party chef, filling the big gaps of the otherwise oriental party. Luckily not the party maid...... however you can call me "the nurse", too, and I suspect she holds the only bow in the whole party... Party buffing is more like one of bards' few viable direction rather then what make bard stands out. Wizards and Cleric can do good buffing AND patching, too. Music is unique, but that is uniqueness not core value. Rogue can be good with social if they want, and even druids can have diplomacy (mine do). That is why to me, as a player, it is versatility that makes a bard a bard. [/QUOTE]

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