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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jgsugden" data-source="post: 7114152" data-attributes="member: 2629">Let's assume one Short Rest per Long Rest.  A 5th level Warlock gets 4 slots over that long rest period to cast 4 3rd level spells and knows 6 spells.  If he has found a Rod of the Pact Keeper or a Pearl of Power (or both), that might go up by 1 or 2 slots.  A wizard, sorcerer or cleric can cast 2 or 3, maybe 4 with a Pearl of Power, spell - but has 9 to 12 total spells.  Warlock is doing more of the powerful stuff, but has less of the weaker stuff - unless they have an invocation like Misty Visions that allows unlimited Silent Image spells. 11th level Warlocks get one 6th level spell and 6 5th level spells (maybe 7 with the Rod, and/or bonus a 3rd with Pearl of Power for up to 8 spells).  The Wizard is now running around with 16 to 20 spells, but the same 1 6th level slot - but only 2 or 3 5th level spots compared to the 6 to 7 that the warlock gets.  Further, the warlock likely now has 1 or 2 unlimited use spells (levitate self and silent image?) to go with those eldritch blasts.  The Warlock hits hard.At 17th level The Warlock has the same number of 6, 7, 8 and 9 level spells as the wizard and 8 or 9 5th level spells.  The wizard has 17 to 22 slots of 5th level or below.  However, only 3 of those are 5th level slots compared to the 8 or 9 Warlock spells of 5th level.  The warlock also may have 4 unlimited use spells at this point (levitate self, silent image, arcane eye, hold monster (celestial/fiend/elemental)?)At all 3 of those feel pretty comparable to me - and this is based upon experience, not theory.  I've done that progression in both classes and know how they both feel.</blockquote>

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