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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 7727196" data-attributes="member: 22779">Pathfinder is known to non-gamers?&nbsp; I'm not sure I'd agree with that.The problem with this definition is that so many board games do fit the bill.&nbsp; Game of Life is still played after decades, by many families, all over the world.&nbsp; Commercially an unbelievable success.&nbsp; But, a &quot;great&quot; game?And, the next question is, how long of a time frame are we looking at.&nbsp; Sure, D&amp;D is 50 years old (or thereabouts), but, compared to many games, that's a flash in the pan.&nbsp; Euchre or Bridge is far, far more enduring.&nbsp; Does that make them &quot;greater&quot; games?And then we have the &quot;great many people&quot; line.&nbsp; What does that actually mean.&nbsp; The number of Magic players absolutely dwarfs D&amp;D by an order of magnitude.&nbsp; Quite likely more people will play Monopoly this weekend than have ever played D&amp;D.&nbsp; And, then, we get into video games as well.&nbsp; Something like Halo has more players on any given day than D&amp;D will ever have.&nbsp; Counter Strike is enjoyed all over the world and it's 17 years old. According to Steam, 300000+ people are playing it every day.&nbsp; Is it a great game?Words like &quot;great&quot; are very nebulous and you can massage pretty much anything to being great.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 7727196, member: 22779"] Pathfinder is known to non-gamers? I'm not sure I'd agree with that. The problem with this definition is that so many board games do fit the bill. Game of Life is still played after decades, by many families, all over the world. Commercially an unbelievable success. But, a "great" game? And, the next question is, how long of a time frame are we looking at. Sure, D&D is 50 years old (or thereabouts), but, compared to many games, that's a flash in the pan. Euchre or Bridge is far, far more enduring. Does that make them "greater" games? And then we have the "great many people" line. What does that actually mean. The number of Magic players absolutely dwarfs D&D by an order of magnitude. Quite likely more people will play Monopoly this weekend than have ever played D&D. And, then, we get into video games as well. Something like Halo has more players on any given day than D&D will ever have. Counter Strike is enjoyed all over the world and it's 17 years old. According to Steam, 300000+ people are playing it every day. Is it a great game? Words like "great" are very nebulous and you can massage pretty much anything to being great. [/QUOTE]

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