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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9691217" data-attributes="member: 18">Basically this for me. I'd personally also add significant HP escalation, at least over the first nine or ten levels.If the game doesn't have those things, it might be &quot;D&amp;D-like&quot; or &quot;D&amp;D-inspired&quot; or even &quot;a D&amp;D&quot; (which is a broader and different term/usage imo) for me, but it's not a &quot;D&amp;D variant&quot;.I think we can take it as read that if it uses 1E/2E-style resolution mechanics that also counts. I don't believe the idea was to exclude those, I think you're reading a bit too literally.But if it is using a fundamentally different resolution mechanic, especially for combat, big questions are raised as to whether it's a &quot;D&amp;D variant&quot; or simply a fantasy game somewhat inspired by D&amp;D.Definitely agree re: edge case. I think I'd call it a D&amp;D variant for two reasons myself:1) It intentionally leans into D&amp;D tropes even when it doesn't entirely make sense for what he's designing (I agree that Traveller or something might have been a better starting point for what he's actually doing). I think wanting to be a D&amp;D variant is part of being one!2) The games go out of their way to fix issues specific to D&amp;D but usually in ways that are sort of workarounds rather than fundamentally different to D&amp;D. The skill system is the biggest deviation, and I think he had to do it in order for stuff to actually work (because proficiencies were never quite a skill system).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 9691217, member: 18"] Basically this for me. I'd personally also add significant HP escalation, at least over the first nine or ten levels. If the game doesn't have those things, it might be "D&D-like" or "D&D-inspired" or even "a D&D" (which is a broader and different term/usage imo) for me, but it's not a "D&D variant". I think we can take it as read that if it uses 1E/2E-style resolution mechanics that also counts. I don't believe the idea was to exclude those, I think you're reading a bit too literally. But if it is using a fundamentally different resolution mechanic, especially for combat, big questions are raised as to whether it's a "D&D variant" or simply a fantasy game somewhat inspired by D&D. Definitely agree re: edge case. I think I'd call it a D&D variant for two reasons myself: 1) It intentionally leans into D&D tropes even when it doesn't entirely make sense for what he's designing (I agree that Traveller or something might have been a better starting point for what he's actually doing). I think wanting to be a D&D variant is part of being one! 2) The games go out of their way to fix issues specific to D&D but usually in ways that are sort of workarounds rather than fundamentally different to D&D. The skill system is the biggest deviation, and I think he had to do it in order for stuff to actually work (because proficiencies were never quite a skill system). [/QUOTE]

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