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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 9331140" data-attributes="member: 42582">Every time I invite you or other posters to do so, you decline.Like, where are your examples of narrativistic 5e D&amp;D play?Over this and other threads I've given my examples of narrativistic play, from AD&amp;D, 4e D&amp;D, Rolemaster, Burning Wheel, Prince Valiant, Torchbearer 2e, Agon 2e, MHRP/Cortex+ Heroic Fantasy, and Classic Traveller. I've talked about what are the strengths of these systems, and some of their limitations (particularly notable for AD&amp;D and RM). I'm doing my share of the heavy lifting.In a recent video that was posted in one of these threads (I think I posted it in this one), Ron Edwards gave his example of narrativist 3E D&amp;D. He's doing his share of the lifiting without even posting on ENworld!If 5e D&amp;D players want examples of what narrativist 5e would look like, they need to offer some up. But the last really detailed discussion of 5e D&amp;D play that I remember was [USER=6785785]@hawkeyefan[/USER]'s example of a GM railroading over the top of his Folk Hero background ability, and most of the other 5e players spent a lot of time and effort trying to defend that as good GMing. That's the sort of posting that makes me doubt that there is very much narrativistic or player-driven 5e play going on - because all the strong 5e D&amp;D advocates pretty consistently advocate for GM-driven play.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 9331140, member: 42582"] Every time I invite you or other posters to do so, you decline. Like, where are your examples of narrativistic 5e D&D play? Over this and other threads I've given my examples of narrativistic play, from AD&D, 4e D&D, Rolemaster, Burning Wheel, Prince Valiant, Torchbearer 2e, Agon 2e, MHRP/Cortex+ Heroic Fantasy, and Classic Traveller. I've talked about what are the strengths of these systems, and some of their limitations (particularly notable for AD&D and RM). I'm doing my share of the heavy lifting. In a recent video that was posted in one of these threads (I think I posted it in this one), Ron Edwards gave his example of narrativist 3E D&D. He's doing his share of the lifiting without even posting on ENworld! If 5e D&D players want examples of what narrativist 5e would look like, they need to offer some up. But the last really detailed discussion of 5e D&D play that I remember was [USER=6785785]@hawkeyefan[/USER]'s example of a GM railroading over the top of his Folk Hero background ability, and most of the other 5e players spent a lot of time and effort trying to defend that as good GMing. That's the sort of posting that makes me doubt that there is very much narrativistic or player-driven 5e play going on - because all the strong 5e D&D advocates pretty consistently advocate for GM-driven play. [/QUOTE]

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