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<blockquote data-quote="Emerikol" data-source="post: 8224208" data-attributes="member: 6698278">I think for most of us there is an edition of D&amp;D that is our home.&nbsp; Mine is 1e AD&amp;D though I started briefly with the red boxed basic set first.&nbsp; I still love B2 Keep on the Borderlands.So our conception of D&amp;D is very much based upon where we came from in D&amp;D's history.&nbsp; I do find it interesting though that in 1980's we had D&amp;D and AD&amp;D and now we have D&amp;D and Pathfinder.&nbsp; The market wants what the market wants I guess.&nbsp;&nbsp; Though I admit D&amp;D 5e is a bit more crunchy than old D&amp;D and Pathfinder is quiet a bit more crunchy than AD&amp;D.&nbsp;&nbsp; So the trend is more crunchy.For me the attributes are important.&nbsp; I'd never write a D&amp;D &quot;clone&quot; and replace wisdom with willpower even though I think wisdom is a lousy choice and willpower would be so much better.&nbsp;&nbsp; I even think the order has a feel to me.&nbsp; Real D&amp;D'ers,&nbsp; tongue in cheek here folks,&nbsp; list there stats in STR, INT, WIS, DEX, CON, CHA order.&nbsp; Not sure where I got that notion but when I see them listed out of order I find it mildly irritating.&nbsp; How's that for an odd take.I think there is an implied setting for D&amp;D.&nbsp; It includes the wheel but even more importantly the Devils, Demons, etc...&nbsp;&nbsp; They are very much D&amp;D to me.&nbsp; Having said that I was overjoyed when 4e switched it up and I think every setting should have a different cosmology.&nbsp; I tend to create my own cosmologies these days.&nbsp; Yet for the implied setting it's the great wheel.&nbsp;&nbsp; I think all of the named spells and magic items are part of that implied setting.&nbsp;&nbsp; I think classes are &quot;of course&quot;.&nbsp;&nbsp; I think elves, dwarves, gnomes, and halflings are.&nbsp; To be honest I'm generally not a lover of the other newer races that have come along as core.&nbsp; I do often like to introduce new races for a unique setting though.&nbsp; I admit though that my views are driven by my history.&nbsp; The younger generation never played 3e let alone 1e.&nbsp; They probably will feel differently about all of these things.&nbsp; I admit I'm on the back nine in my life.&nbsp; The generation right in front of me is dying off.&nbsp; So the game will go on.&nbsp; I am very happy though that because of the OGL, we have such a broader set of options today than we had in yesteryear.&nbsp; Obviously it's niche but you can now play any style you want and you can buy the original AD&amp;D books even if that is to your taste.&nbsp; I prefer some of the improvements in game design so I tend towards a modified retroclone.&nbsp; I'm thinking ACKS could be my game.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Emerikol, post: 8224208, member: 6698278"] I think for most of us there is an edition of D&D that is our home. Mine is 1e AD&D though I started briefly with the red boxed basic set first. I still love B2 Keep on the Borderlands. So our conception of D&D is very much based upon where we came from in D&D's history. I do find it interesting though that in 1980's we had D&D and AD&D and now we have D&D and Pathfinder. The market wants what the market wants I guess. Though I admit D&D 5e is a bit more crunchy than old D&D and Pathfinder is quiet a bit more crunchy than AD&D. So the trend is more crunchy. For me the attributes are important. I'd never write a D&D "clone" and replace wisdom with willpower even though I think wisdom is a lousy choice and willpower would be so much better. I even think the order has a feel to me. Real D&D'ers, tongue in cheek here folks, list there stats in STR, INT, WIS, DEX, CON, CHA order. Not sure where I got that notion but when I see them listed out of order I find it mildly irritating. How's that for an odd take. I think there is an implied setting for D&D. It includes the wheel but even more importantly the Devils, Demons, etc... They are very much D&D to me. Having said that I was overjoyed when 4e switched it up and I think every setting should have a different cosmology. I tend to create my own cosmologies these days. Yet for the implied setting it's the great wheel. I think all of the named spells and magic items are part of that implied setting. I think classes are "of course". I think elves, dwarves, gnomes, and halflings are. To be honest I'm generally not a lover of the other newer races that have come along as core. I do often like to introduce new races for a unique setting though. I admit though that my views are driven by my history. The younger generation never played 3e let alone 1e. They probably will feel differently about all of these things. I admit I'm on the back nine in my life. The generation right in front of me is dying off. So the game will go on. I am very happy though that because of the OGL, we have such a broader set of options today than we had in yesteryear. Obviously it's niche but you can now play any style you want and you can buy the original AD&D books even if that is to your taste. I prefer some of the improvements in game design so I tend towards a modified retroclone. I'm thinking ACKS could be my game. [/QUOTE]

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