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<blockquote data-quote="shilsen" data-source="post: 1866764" data-attributes="member: 198">I would say that this is too much a matter on interpretation for any one answer. To use an analogy from my line of work, is it &quot;Hamlet&quot; when Shakespeare thinks of it (and consider the fact that he's using an existing plot)? When he writes down part of it? When he writes down all of it? When he edits it? When he re-edits it? When it is printed? When it is performed? When it is re-performed, but only in part? When centuries later, someone puts it on film?&nbsp; My answer to all of them would be &quot;Yes&quot;. A play does not exist as a single artifact but is a collaborative form.And that is even more true for something like D&amp;D. Depending on the individual, the point of change is totally arbitrary. For me, as long as it has some of the standard tropes of D&amp;D - classes, races, level-based improvement, spell preparation/slots (and sacred cows like magic missile and fireball), iconic monsters like beholders and mindflayers, etc., it's still D&amp;D.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="shilsen, post: 1866764, member: 198"] I would say that this is too much a matter on interpretation for any one answer. To use an analogy from my line of work, is it "Hamlet" when Shakespeare thinks of it (and consider the fact that he's using an existing plot)? When he writes down part of it? When he writes down all of it? When he edits it? When he re-edits it? When it is printed? When it is performed? When it is re-performed, but only in part? When centuries later, someone puts it on film? My answer to all of them would be "Yes". A play does not exist as a single artifact but is a collaborative form. And that is even more true for something like D&D. Depending on the individual, the point of change is totally arbitrary. For me, as long as it has some of the standard tropes of D&D - classes, races, level-based improvement, spell preparation/slots (and sacred cows like magic missile and fireball), iconic monsters like beholders and mindflayers, etc., it's still D&D. [/QUOTE]

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