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<blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 1615722" data-attributes="member: 957"><p>I understood that. I was just pointing out that you example of being geared toward one aspect was not supportive of the idea that this leads to great success. Does not mean Eberron will not be, but I am not aware of any setting that pushed the flavor a certain way doing as well as FR (or Greyhawk, the other blank slate, for that matter).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>OK, I disagree.</p><p></p><p>I can sit and list examples, and you can shoot them down one at a time.</p><p>But that does not mean that the list does not add up to little hinderances to playing other types of games. I don't remotely claim that those little hinderances are a prevention. But given a choice between having those hinderances and not, I'll take not.</p><p>In Eberron, everything (used loosely) has its place in the world. And on a case by case basis you can ignore anything you need to in order to push a different plot element into Eberron. But on a case by case basis you can ignore whatever you need to place non-horror games in Ravenloft.</p><p></p><p>When Ravenloft came out it was very popular and received a lot of positive feedback. It was all of D&D AND it had horror built in. But for the majority of gamers, they eventually wanted to do something other than horror and they found that it was more rewarding to simply go to FR or a Homebrew than to do the non-horror stuff in the horror setting. (Yes, there are exceptions)</p><p></p><p>I see that same thing here. I'll use Eberron in a similar manner to how I would use Ravenloft, for one offs or mini-campaigns where the focus lines up with the grain of the setting.</p><p></p><p>Like I said before, it may be that this is what the market wants. And if so, then good for them. I'm very open with my opinions, but I'm not one to get bent out of shape if the market disagrees with me. But Ravenloft was a big deal when it came out. Dark Sun was a big deal when it came out. Birthright was a big deal when it came out (relative to the overall downward state of D&D at that time). We will have to wait and see if Eberron gets a book when 4E comes out, or if it gets an issue of Dragon.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BryonD, post: 1615722, member: 957"] I understood that. I was just pointing out that you example of being geared toward one aspect was not supportive of the idea that this leads to great success. Does not mean Eberron will not be, but I am not aware of any setting that pushed the flavor a certain way doing as well as FR (or Greyhawk, the other blank slate, for that matter). OK, I disagree. I can sit and list examples, and you can shoot them down one at a time. But that does not mean that the list does not add up to little hinderances to playing other types of games. I don't remotely claim that those little hinderances are a prevention. But given a choice between having those hinderances and not, I'll take not. In Eberron, everything (used loosely) has its place in the world. And on a case by case basis you can ignore anything you need to in order to push a different plot element into Eberron. But on a case by case basis you can ignore whatever you need to place non-horror games in Ravenloft. When Ravenloft came out it was very popular and received a lot of positive feedback. It was all of D&D AND it had horror built in. But for the majority of gamers, they eventually wanted to do something other than horror and they found that it was more rewarding to simply go to FR or a Homebrew than to do the non-horror stuff in the horror setting. (Yes, there are exceptions) I see that same thing here. I'll use Eberron in a similar manner to how I would use Ravenloft, for one offs or mini-campaigns where the focus lines up with the grain of the setting. Like I said before, it may be that this is what the market wants. And if so, then good for them. I'm very open with my opinions, but I'm not one to get bent out of shape if the market disagrees with me. But Ravenloft was a big deal when it came out. Dark Sun was a big deal when it came out. Birthright was a big deal when it came out (relative to the overall downward state of D&D at that time). We will have to wait and see if Eberron gets a book when 4E comes out, or if it gets an issue of Dragon. [/QUOTE]
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