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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Coroc" data-source="post: 7438346" data-attributes="member: 6895991">[MENTION=6775031]Saelorn[/MENTION]   [MENTION=12731]CapnZapp[/MENTION]   I think you both exagerate a bit, Saelorn, when you state that in your campaign the GWM got a good Magic greatsword, making him theoretically even better at what he should do best, but otoh stating that now the more a shield wearer would be more use of the Party, why is that so? Do you Count Magic weaponry as a + on secret intimmidation rolls?And Capn no one denounces the context! - related value of These feats. Still a +2 to your main Attribute is valuable also and it is of use in many  more situations. Unless the Party always survives or has infinite methods of resurrection the GWM out dpr the rest of the gang but dying every Encounter is no gain for the Group.Otoh [MENTION=6795602]FrogReaver[/MENTION]  s table a few Posts up clearly Show the trend: GWM (and SS) the active  -5/+10 part, it is best versus low AC. And that is relatively independant of mob Level because of BA (ok it will get shifted a bit with higher Levels) At Level 1 doing +10 vs a goblin who instantly perishes is impressive. At higher Levels whether you take out 17 or 27 of the 400 HP Dragon is no big gain, more important is to take it out somehow before he hits the Party with his breath weapon for a devastating 3rd time. And in that Scenario a defensive fighter rules.I did not Analyse exactly what fighter / barbarian build is the base for Frogs table but it does not matter since it is a General rule solely based on statistics.Again, you can neither reliable count in Advantage  or even bless every fight. If any of those two is a constant resource then your DM is doing it wrong.And even if it is a constant resource, it only shifts the numbers, either it would also be effective for the defensive fighter making him hit better also or it would free capacity of the cleric e.g. who can now use his concentration for another goodie, thereby improving the Overall dpr of the Group.</blockquote>

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