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<blockquote data-quote="guachi" data-source="post: 7440894" data-attributes="member: 6785802"><p>Yup. Simple level one fighter with the appropriate feat and style. If you run random trials fighting five goblins (yes, the level 1 dude will be dead. Whatever.), after 50 random trials with 250 goblins giving their lives for science GWF came out just ahead of TWF. It was close enough I'd actually call it a tie. GWF was 3% better.</p><p></p><p>Fighting 3 hobgoblins took both GWF and TWF a little longer and GWF was barely ahead after 50 trials. Like .5% ahead. Despite hobgoblins being much harder for the TWF fighter to one-shot, only doing so with max damage, the lower hit chance and lower one-shot chance for the GWF fighter means fewer bonus action attacks.</p><p></p><p>Against 3 zombies, the GWF fighter dominated after 50 trials with the TWF guy taking 50% longer (or the GWF figher taking 33% less shorter. Whatever). The GWM guy could actually do his power attack and one-shot zombies and inflict so much damage they couldn't make the save. There were a few cases the GWF fighter took out 3 zombies in 3 straight hits. The TWF fighter, while hitting on a 3 or higher, suffered from doing so little damage the saves were easy to make. I did this as it's probably best case low-level scenario for the GWF guy.</p><p></p><p>I was actually surprised at the results as goblin fighting at level one should be a place where the TWF guy shines. But, nope. The TWF guy would probably do better against a single foe with higher AC and higher HP like a hobgoblin leader where the GWF guy only gets an extra attack on a crit.</p><p></p><p>You're right, though. The GWF style is a beast against goblins and hobgoblins. I think in all 50 trials against 250 goblins there was exactly one time where the GWF guy didn't one-shot the goblin. The actual chance is about 1% not to one-shot.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="guachi, post: 7440894, member: 6785802"] Yup. Simple level one fighter with the appropriate feat and style. If you run random trials fighting five goblins (yes, the level 1 dude will be dead. Whatever.), after 50 random trials with 250 goblins giving their lives for science GWF came out just ahead of TWF. It was close enough I'd actually call it a tie. GWF was 3% better. Fighting 3 hobgoblins took both GWF and TWF a little longer and GWF was barely ahead after 50 trials. Like .5% ahead. Despite hobgoblins being much harder for the TWF fighter to one-shot, only doing so with max damage, the lower hit chance and lower one-shot chance for the GWF fighter means fewer bonus action attacks. Against 3 zombies, the GWF fighter dominated after 50 trials with the TWF guy taking 50% longer (or the GWF figher taking 33% less shorter. Whatever). The GWM guy could actually do his power attack and one-shot zombies and inflict so much damage they couldn't make the save. There were a few cases the GWF fighter took out 3 zombies in 3 straight hits. The TWF fighter, while hitting on a 3 or higher, suffered from doing so little damage the saves were easy to make. I did this as it's probably best case low-level scenario for the GWF guy. I was actually surprised at the results as goblin fighting at level one should be a place where the TWF guy shines. But, nope. The TWF guy would probably do better against a single foe with higher AC and higher HP like a hobgoblin leader where the GWF guy only gets an extra attack on a crit. You're right, though. The GWF style is a beast against goblins and hobgoblins. I think in all 50 trials against 250 goblins there was exactly one time where the GWF guy didn't one-shot the goblin. The actual chance is about 1% not to one-shot. [/QUOTE]
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