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Message: <blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 8280154" data-attributes="member: 93670">With regards to your fireball does more than an attack action comment, what level class weapon etc.<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Fireball is easy because it's always going to be 8d6 with a third level slot for an avg of 28 & the scaling is god awful.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">at level 9 & 11 a rogue with a rapier will be doing 1d8+5+5d6=27 & 1d8+5+6d6=30.5.  How many targets & how many rounds will the fight last where the caster is dealing 2d# or 3d#  decides which does more.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">a level 6-8ish fighter will attack twice for 2d6+5=12  total 24 total& can action surge that to 24/48 .  If you add GWM it jumps to 34 & 68.  Again, how many targets and rounds?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">A level 11-19 fighter will attack 3x for 2d6+5=12  total 36 to be dealing an average of 8 more damage every round with no resource usage.  If you add GWM it becomes 2d6+5+10=22 total 66 action surged to 132.  The fireball would need to hit 2.3 & 4.7 targets to match that.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The longer a combat goes on, the more a caster is likely to be forced towards cantrips where martials are trivially catching up to & even exceeding a good above average roll on  that fireball so</li> </ul>Talking about spells+skills while ignoring what skills & classes are linked to what class's primary attributes  is a bit of a distortion too.Yes concentration lasts multiple rounds on concentration spells, but few of those have the kind of damage needed to bridge the at will gap & nearly all of them can be nullified with a five foot step or grant a free no cost save every round, saying that longer "deadly" fights favor casters is just silly as there are few meaningful (de)buffs in 5e where that might apply.  exactly what criteria makes those fights "favor casters"?  Can you give a detailed example with specifics showing the favor without resorting to "long rest>novanovanova>then long rest"?</blockquote>

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