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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Shard O'Glase" data-source="post: 1670213" data-attributes="member: 1134">The vast majority of metamagic feats suck and suck hard.  Oh zippy I can take a feat so I can cast a spell that's modified to a level where its now balanced with the spells of that level. So um why did I spend a feat??  Extend spell: sucks, there aren't near enough spells with a duration to make a 1 level boost worth it.The range boost one: sucks unbeleiveably in 3.5 a feat and +1 spell elvel so my range is a bit better wow designers were on the short bus with this one.still spell: sucks hard, all you need if your afraid of grapples is silent and silent also handles stealth consideraitons.silent: well it is ok if you're a mage/stealth type I don't think its worth it just for a silent d-door to escape a graple or a silence field or whatever.  I think its worth it for a mage/rogue who proable want to make 0 noise while there sneaking around.empower:  this one has some oomph, at every time after 3rd spell level when you gain a new spell level a empowered level in yoyr highest and 2nd highest slot out damages other spells at that level.  For exaple at 9th level level an empowered fireball does 9d6g(x1.5) cone of cold just 9d6.  Now our 13th level cone of cold is doing 13d6 and the empowered fireball basically 15d6 but with its lower DC its not any better damage wise.  Its still better because cones suck.maximize: similar to empower but you only need 1 of them and I think empower is more versatile so its just a crappy empower.Quicken: hey at +2 spell levels sure at +3 spell levels a bit weak but maybe, at +4 spell levels it sucks, yeah sure you can use it and it may help a bit in a fight but usually not as much as the +4 spell levels are worth and certainly not hoe much a feat and +4 spell levels are worth.Widen spell: hey, hey hooo um yeah take this one its giggle worth it.Metamagic feats are a nice attempt at a magic system modifier but overall it sucks.</blockquote>

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