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<blockquote data-quote="RealAlHazred" data-source="post: 9424547" data-attributes="member: 25818">ALL UR RPGS R BELONG TO GYGAXThat being said...I knew of references to what might be some form of early wargame/tabletop RPGs in the 17th century. The first &quot;modern wargame&quot; would seem to be the game developed by Johann Hellwig in 1760. And HG Wells popularized miniatures gaming with Floor Games (1911) and Little Wars (1913).Of course, the first of what we would probably recognize as games date to the middle of the 14th century in Europe. Earlier than that you had the Romans recreating mythical events in the Colliseum and children have probably been LARPing since there've been children, but as an entertainment where there was some abstract way to determine outcomes, it seems likely to have been invented by nobles in Britain, Spain, and Italy, who organized Round Table reenactments of important Arthurian stories during special occasions in which participants would imitate and take the names of Arthur and his knights. It seems from some sources that, while the overall event was scripted, there was room for improvisation; exactly how this was accomplished is unknown.I am intrigued by [USER=177]@Umbran[/USER] 's reference in another thread about even older LARPing in China, and would like to know more!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="RealAlHazred, post: 9424547, member: 25818"] ALL UR RPGS R BELONG TO GYGAX That being said... I knew of references to what might be some form of early wargame/tabletop RPGs in the 17th century. The first "modern wargame" would seem to be the game developed by Johann Hellwig in 1760. And HG Wells popularized miniatures gaming with [I][B]Floor Games[/B][/I] (1911) and [B][I]Little Wars[/I][/B] (1913). Of course, the first of what we would probably recognize as games date to the middle of the 14th century in Europe. Earlier than that you had the Romans recreating mythical events in the Colliseum and children have probably been LARPing since there've been children, but as an entertainment where there was some abstract way to determine outcomes, it seems likely to have been invented by nobles in Britain, Spain, and Italy, who organized Round Table reenactments of important Arthurian stories during special occasions in which participants would imitate and take the names of Arthur and his knights. It seems from some sources that, while the overall event was scripted, there was room for improvisation; exactly how this was accomplished is unknown. I am intrigued by [USER=177]@Umbran[/USER] 's reference in another thread about even older LARPing in China, and would like to know more! [/QUOTE]

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