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Message: <blockquote data-quote="aramis erak" data-source="post: 9427098" data-attributes="member: 6779310">When we look at the largest surges in TSR D&D, it's the points where false accusations created controversy that boosted sales. Eggbert's suicide, Pat Pulling's delusional campaign... The Tolkein Enterprises Lawsuit before that.MOTU, while very playable (that was the point of the toys), was very controversial - it doubled down on the violence that reformers were ranting, sometimes to the point of literal frothing at the mouth, about before the US Congress. And its main story was often tangential to the morality play subplot that was tacked on to justify the explicit Prince Adam lesson at the end.  Further, it was very clearly aimed at Elementary school kids (even tho' many of us were in jr high/middle school,  high school or college when we watched it.)Putting it as a baseline for a game during or right after its run? WAY too likely to hit excessive controversy, and  it's not like Congress would have been unwilling to regulate and/or ban them. (According to Sen. Ted Stevens, (R-AK), in a personal conversation over drinks, it was only that Pat Pulling was caught using majorly erroneous information that RPGs weren't age restricted like Booze.)Plus, I doubt that RPGs wouldn't have emerged at some point in the 70's...Time to look in strategic review... let's see what's advertised...SR1.1 Chainmail, Tractics,  Don't Give Up The Ship (TSR, all "acquired from Guidon Games"), Warriors of Mars (TSR), Conan minis (MiniFigs), Solar Probe (TSR)SR 1.2 Cavaliers and Roundheads, Panzer Warfare, Tricolor, Classic Warfare (all TSR - English Civil War, WWII, Napoleonic, and Ancients in four flavors, respectively)SR 1.3 Boot Hill (TSR - minis game only in the reference), WW I air-to-air minis (reference to a magazine for them),  90mm cardboard flats counters for the US CW,Interesting side note: the song in SR 1.3 is a filk by an SCA Member, published in SR under his SCA name with his "mundane name" given as an alias.Those minis games only have heroic figures in Ancients... any of Guidon/TSR's games except Don't Give Up the SHip would be passable baselines, however, for heroic characters being added... and then kicking off a non-dungeon focused RPG.</blockquote>

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