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<blockquote data-quote="Snarf Zagyg" data-source="post: 9428029" data-attributes="member: 7023840">I can't fully sign on to this, for two reasons.First, the community of wargamers and fantasy readers was not a complete circle. Many wargamers were not that into fantasy- they thought of it as a distraction from &quot;real&quot; history. See, e.g., David Wesley. If you read The Elusive Shift, one of the things that becomes apparent is how RPGs evolved due to the cross-pollination between the wargame and Sci-Fi (which included fantasy at that point) communities.Second, the part about Gygax including the Tolkien stuff because of fan interest ... eh. The reason they were in there originally was because they were in Chainmail's fantasy supplement. The reason they were in Chainmail's fantasy supplement is because it was likely borrowed from the <a href="https://playingattheworld.blogspot.com/2016/01/a-precursor-to-chainmail-fantasy.html" target="_blank">Battle of the Pelennor Fields</a>.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Snarf Zagyg, post: 9428029, member: 7023840"] I can't fully sign on to this, for two reasons. First, the community of wargamers and fantasy readers was not a complete circle. Many wargamers were not that into fantasy- they thought of it as a distraction from "real" history. See, e.g., David Wesley. If you read [I]The Elusive Shift[/I], one of the things that becomes apparent is how RPGs evolved due to the cross-pollination between the wargame and Sci-Fi (which included fantasy at that point) communities. Second, the part about Gygax including the Tolkien stuff because of fan interest ... eh. The reason they were in there originally was because they were in Chainmail's fantasy supplement. The reason they were in Chainmail's fantasy supplement is because it was likely [I]borrowed[/I] from the [URL='https://playingattheworld.blogspot.com/2016/01/a-precursor-to-chainmail-fantasy.html']Battle of the Pelennor Fields[/URL]. [/QUOTE]

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