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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 5521063" data-attributes="member: 4937">This is going to sound like I'm jumping you, but how can you do Tolkien and especially Leiber without wierd?Tolkien has fell beasts, and says that in the deep places of the earth strange things unknown to even the valar gnaw the bones of the mountains.&nbsp; What is the Watcher in the Water if not wierd?&nbsp; If you do Tolkien 'underdark', then you do 'wierd'.&nbsp; Shelob isn't merely a big spider, she is a monterous spider of nightmares whose webs suck up light and bind up shadows.&nbsp; And Leiber is heavily influenced by HP Lovecraft, to the point that the mentors of the protagonists of his 'Swords' books are robed lovecraftian monsters with faces that are masses of eye stalks.&nbsp;You object to those.&nbsp;&nbsp; Ok, but do you object to BD&amp;D standbys like carrion crawlers, green slime, and tarantellas?&nbsp;&nbsp; And if not, at least give a few of the wierder things a try in the dark wierd corners of your world.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 5521063, member: 4937"] This is going to sound like I'm jumping you, but how can you do Tolkien and especially Leiber without wierd? Tolkien has fell beasts, and says that in the deep places of the earth strange things unknown to even the valar gnaw the bones of the mountains. What is the Watcher in the Water if not wierd? If you do Tolkien 'underdark', then you do 'wierd'. Shelob isn't merely a big spider, she is a monterous spider of nightmares whose webs suck up light and bind up shadows. And Leiber is heavily influenced by HP Lovecraft, to the point that the mentors of the protagonists of his 'Swords' books are robed lovecraftian monsters with faces that are masses of eye stalks. You object to those. Ok, but do you object to BD&D standbys like carrion crawlers, green slime, and tarantellas? And if not, at least give a few of the wierder things a try in the dark wierd corners of your world. [/QUOTE]

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