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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KidSnide" data-source="post: 5494809" data-attributes="member: 54710">I think monsters like werewolves and yuan-ti work fine with the new racial mechanics in Heroes of Shadow.  You need a basic racial power and some abilities and, if you want more, you can choose racial utilities (and maybe some attacks) instead of your class abilities.Vampires are different because they have a much wider range of powers, so you need to have the powers associated with the class to make the character work.  You could use a racial basis for a vampire (that's effectively what the Vryloka is), but it just wouldn't have all the blood-sucking-attack abilities that should be in the hands of a powerful vampire.So, yes, I agree that werewolves and yuan-ti are good examples for unusual PCs.  (And, incidentally minotaurs, warforged, wilden and an number of other established PC races are equally good examples of "weird PCs".)  However, a good monster class requires a wider and weirder range of powers.  I think dragons are the obvious example - not because I want dozens of dragon PCs wandering around my gameworld - but because it's a race that you could only play in a satisfying way if nearly all of your character's abilities were dedicated to "dragon-y" things.I think angel, fiend and beholder would be other reasonable examples...-KS</blockquote>