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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Alzrius" data-source="post: 750332" data-attributes="member: 8461">This is going to sound somewhat impertinent, but I disagree.The advent of the d20 system has forced there to be levels of canonity. Whereas before it was everything WotC/TSR publishes is canon, and everything else isn't, the line has now been blurred somewhat. Now we have WotC products being the most canon (this includes official products from their designated fan-sites), other d20 publishers being canon, but less so (for the most part equally among them, by their very nature), and then just fan-produced materials. Where conflict occurs, the higher level of canonity trumps (if the conflict cannot be reconciled, that is).All this, of course, is both a headache and a delightful challenge for people like me, who love to delve into the minute details and compare them. On the subject of the ToH though, it is most definately canon, the way I see it, since it was published by a d20 publisher (and one of the largest ones to boot), and especially because WotC looked the included monsters over somewhat, thereby implicitly adding a sort of approval stamp to them. Ergo, despite its origins as a fan-produced collective, it was designated canon by the powers that be....I am such a nerd aren't I? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Too true, but that merely falls back onto the levels of canonity I mentioned before. The demon lords are an excellent example of this. WotC's Orcus from the BoVD is thusly more canonical than the Orcus in the ToH. However, that is only true if there can't be a workable explanation for why the two Orcuses differ (and I'm going to endeavor to find such an explanation in a few months when I update "A Brief History of Orcus" for the Necromancer Games site).In essence, the materials in the ToH are canon until something more canon comes along.Gez, that isn't how it works. Anything WotC does is canon, then d20 companies, then fan-stuff (which isn't canon at all). Ergo, the MM2 leviathan is the most canon, moreso than the Seas of Blood one. We have to take the bad with the good. It's part of having a standard of officialness that applies equally everywhere.</blockquote>

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